Grand theft orca.

I've always wanted an orca. Just for moving stuff around. And for thieving ice. So I trained up for it.

Yesterday, I got my wish. I Foud a war tareget (corp recently bailed on BDEAL) playing nursemaid to a binch of mackinaws.

This would not do...Fortunately he was at 0 to the ice belt....scram the thing and open a conversation. I don't get a reply until I actually sicc drones on him tho.


Zedrik Cayne > You eject..that pod stays intact.
Drenwulf Crendraven > say what?
Drenwulf Crendraven > doint understand
Zedrik Cayne > Eject.
Zedrik Cayne > Or I squash the pod once you are dead.
Zedrik Cayne > Hope you don't have any expensive implants.
Drenwulf Crendraven > any way to negotiate>
Zedrik Cayne > You are at half shield.
Zedrik Cayne > I suggest you hurry.

And...wonder of wonders...he ejects. I leave the pod alone, he has just put 500 mil in my pocket...oops...almost 600 mil, it is rigged) *yay* Board ship...scoop my arbitrator..Crap..stuff in the cargohold that is not ammo. Let's just get the prize home. (Ever more important since the session timer changes...swapping ships takes much much less time)

Zedrik Cayne > Warp off.
Zedrik Cayne > Have a nice day.
Zedrik Cayne > Thank you very much.


There's already ice in the hold...a full can next to it. Not a bad haul for the day.

So, the war so far has been isk well spent. Faction cruiser blueprint and an orca. Couple lessons for me in how nullsec works, and a couple lessons for carebears in untanked haulers.

I don't know what to say.

I don't follow many things. Too much time spent in game and messing around. Not enough time reading stuff out there. But @CCP_Diagoras posted something up about him getting an award. So I went and took a look.

But before I hit bottom, it turns out that someone out there actually reads this stuff too. I got the Free Boot for Blog Series of the Year. In the same category as the likes of http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/ Who won Blogger of the year.

Thank you very much.

Are 0.0 alliance ratters so rich that they don't loot/salvage? Luckily YES!

Whoever...or whatever...is using carriers to clear sites in bdeal space does not check the wrecks....at all.

I was checking the dscan and watching wrecks show up when a bs sized shadow rat shows up. A quick probe scan and dscan later...I'm in the wreck field and waiting for the cleanup. As wrecks start to dissapear, I actually check the spiffy wreck.

Vigilant blueprint...ka ching! Well, time to go afk for hours and hours. And change systems once...and...hey, is that a hauler just sitting on a gate?

http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12211101

Oops..someone's T2 production just hit a small wall.

A limited selection of local some time later:

Ziildjian > Zedrik Cayne o/
Zedrik Cayne > o7
Ziildjian > do you have fun being a cloaky fag?
Zedrik Cayne > http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12211101
Zedrik Cayne > Yes
patrick elektros > heh cloaky fag
Ziildjian > thats a industrial
Ziildjian > have you got a real kill yet?
Zedrik Cayne > Untanked even.
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, you think I am here for what you define as 'real' pvp?
patrick elektros > lol
patrick elektros > nice
Zedrik Cayne > How cute.
Ziildjian > well something that shoots back to me is pvp
patrick elektros > real pvp is like that
patrick elektros > surprise buttsexx
Zedrik Cayne > So this: http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12137463
Ziildjian > wat killing idustrials? wow you really are from hisec ahah
Zedrik Cayne > Is real pvp?
patrick elektros > i like a stand up fight, not your cock n bullshit kinda pvp
patrick elektros > just caus you can lock an industrial, wow go back to hisec n gank there
patrick elektros > seems its what you do best
Zedrik Cayne > You are not even looking at the second killmail.... You have to admit that is pretty epic.
Ziildjian > ya good stuff on that kill but if you were going to take any pvp piolt out here solo in that nemisis you will die cos you are a high sec fag
Ziildjian > going after industrials is quite homo
Zedrik Cayne > Declaring war on me and then jumping ship to 0.0 is fighting the good fight?
patrick elektros > your killboard looks like shit Zedrik Cayne http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=178379&view=kills&m=01&y=2012
patrick elektros > fuckin hisec ganker is all you are all you ever will be
patrick elektros > griefer wanna be
Zedrik Cayne > You try to make that sound like a bad thing.
Ziildjian > wow you fail dude
DarkLord420 > like winning the special olympics
Flass Maximus > link your loss for that same ship Zedrik
Flass Maximus > its hilarious how its fit
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, this thing..one sec.
patrick elektros > noa very active killer either
Zedrik Cayne > http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12181931
Flass Maximus > he is a paid pain in the arse
Flass Maximus > and not bad at it for one guy either
Ziildjian > lol a fucking auto cannon?
Zedrik Cayne > It is actually my standard 'I need some sec' lets go rat in null fit.
Flass Maximus > lol not that one for the itty
patrick elektros > well zed i know why you're here, it's reallly pathetic
patrick elektros > an i know it was over a can flip
patrick elektros > so just go home or get some freinds n fight
Ziildjian > lol is he buthurt?
patrick elektros > he can fliipped a guy
Zedrik Cayne > The autocannon is for scrambling rats.
patrick elektros > guy emo raged, he collects tears ina  bucket
Zedrik Cayne > Almost died to those a few times.
patrick elektros > kinda sad actually
Zedrik Cayne > If you'd like to read the full story: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=57679&find=unread
patrick elektros > i mean the guys in rancer actually get props form me, this guy's just pathetic
Zedrik Cayne > If you are bored, read the blog. Relatively amusing.
patrick elektros > sorry not gettin you anymore clicks toyour sad post/blog
patrick elektros > go join IT
Zedrik Cayne > I have some standards.
patrick elektros > lol o yeah they fail cascaded
patrick elektros > go join Nulli Secunda
patrick elektros > you might fit in there
Ziildjian > there fail your fail go have fun
Zedrik Cayne > I don't fit in anywhere really.
patrick elektros > well if you in a one man corp it'd be self explanitory, too selfimportant to join up in fleets nad actually be worth a damn
patrick elektros > fight or gtfo
patrick elektros > or even better titts or gtfo
Zedrik Cayne > You play the game your way...I'll play it mine.
patrick elektros > n brother i dont thin you got titts
Zedrik Cayne > I'm pretty fat.
Zedrik Cayne > My wife says I could fill an a-cup.
patrick elektros > well zed, liek the movie said, zed's dead
patrick elektros > decloak n fight, or just get a better ship
patrick elektros > cause i'd liek to make you find yourself in station sometime
Zedrik Cayne > You seem angry that I don't just wander out and slap you across the face with a leather glove.
patrick elektros > not angry, i wanna pod you
patrick elektros > thats all
Rep012887 > what's this??? local spam????
Rep012887 > wtf?
patrick elektros > =]
Rep012887 > cloaky fag! be gone!
Rep012887 > that's co cliche.
Zedrik Cayne > And really, what is with all the homophobic chatter in local?
patrick elektros > .██░ ███ █░░█ ████░█ █░█ ██░█ ░█░██░ ███ █░██ ░█░░ ░ ░ ░█▀▀ █░█ ▀ ▀█▀ ░ █░█ █▀█ ▀▀█ ███ █ ░█░ ░ █░█ █▀▀ ▀▀▀ ▀░▀ ▀ ░▀░ ░ ▀▀▀ ▀ █░░ ███ █▀▀ █▀█ █░░█░░ █░█ █░░ █▀█ █░░▀▀▀ ▀▀▀ ▀▀▀ ▀░▀ ▀▀▀
patrick elektros > gtfo
Flass Maximus > This is Madness!
Rep012887 > Madnes???
Flass Maximus > THIS IS SPARTA!
Rep012887 > ...except not quite.
Zedrik Cayne > By the way, you might want to get whoever runs your carrier ratting bots that they should really check the fields when they are done.
Flass Maximus > . !__ ┳═一   8█〓██████▅▄▄▄▄▄▄▃▄▅██SPARTA!██▅▄▄◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤
patrick elektros > dude, i got my cock out
Rep012887 > we haz bots? lemme know when you tackle them. I want on tha km.
patrick elektros > come suck it
patrick elektros > cloaky fag
Flass Maximus > if you found faction ammo or a tag
Flass Maximus > good on ya
Flass Maximus > nobody collects those
Flass Maximus > lol
Flass Maximus > except me
Flass Maximus > i bash structures with em
Zedrik Cayne > Vigilant Blueprint  Shadow Serpentis Reflective Plating  Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Flass Maximus > what!
Flass Maximus > lol!
Zedrik Cayne > And a tag :)
Flass Maximus > where?
patrick elektros > .╔══════════════╗║░░░░░║║░░░░░░░║║░░░░░╚╝░░░░░░░║║░░░╔╗╔╗╔╗╦╗░░░║║░░░║╚╝║╠╣║║░░░║║░░░║░░║║║╩╝░░░║║░░░░╦╗╔╗░╔╗═╗░║║░░░░║╣╠╩╗║║╔╝░║║░░░░╩╝║░║╚╝═░░║╚══════════════╝
Flass Maximus > lol and a tag
Zedrik Cayne > In one of the sites in this system. I scanned'em out and spotted the shadow on d-scan.
patrick elektros > he manually typed that shit
Flass Maximus > yeah what system though
Zedrik Cayne > TEG-SD
Zedrik Cayne > Really, right here.
Flass Maximus > LOL!
patrick elektros > shadows dont come upp on dscan
patrick elektros > only dead rats
Zedrik Cayne > The wreck showed.
Flass Maximus > so you're carrying that vigilant blueprint?
Zedrik Cayne > You might wanna mention it to whichever carrier was clearing sites.
patrick elektros > .║║╔╗╗╔ ╔╗╔╗╔═ ╔╗║║╚╣║║║║ ╠╣╠╣╠═ ╠╣║║═╝╚╝╚╝ ║║║╚╚═ ║║╚╚║║╔═╔╗╦╗║╔═╔╗╔╗╠╣╠═╠╣║║║╠═╚╗╚╗║║╚═║║╩╝╚╚══╝═╝╔║║╦╔║╔╔═╔╗╦╔╗║╠╣║║╠╣╠═║║║╚╗╚║║╩╚║╚╚═╩╚╝═╝
Zedrik Cayne > In the hold right now...along with the rest of the crap.
Flass Maximus > :D see people, He even Drops Prizes!
Flass Maximus > . !__ ┳═一   8█〓██████▅▄▄▄▄▄▄▃▄▅██SPARTA!██▅▄▄◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙◤
patrick elektros > well i'm waiting for him to decloak
Zedrik Cayne > I dropped some gas last time someone caught me.
Flass Maximus > LOL gas why?
Zedrik Cayne > Because I found it in a wreck on the way here.
patrick elektros > lol
Flass Maximus > not useful unless you have about 300m worth of equipment and MUCH more gas then your bomber could hold
Zedrik Cayne > Lesson #1: Always check a non-empty wreck.
Flass Maximus > lol you'll be here a while
Zedrik Cayne > You can always jet something useless.
Zedrik Cayne > Well..I wouldn't have bothered except for the shadow wreck.
patrick elektros > heh
Flass Maximus > well shit i mean THAT is a find worth burning for
Zedrik Cayne > I was actually waiting for someone to come and salvage it for the T2 salvage crap.
patrick elektros > then things in contract for liek a mil around here
Flass Maximus > yeah where is it? lol ill come fight you for the salvage
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, that was hours and hours ago...2-3 hours after downtime.
Flass Maximus > :D
Flass Maximus > devo
patrick elektros > mana mana
Zedrik Cayne > I figured someone would have looted the good stuff already.
patrick elektros > du du dururu
patrick elektros > mana mana
Zedrik Cayne > But hey, never leave a wreck unchecked.
Flass Maximus > dur nur durrr
patrick elektros > dudrururu
patrick elektros > manana
Flass Maximus > dur?
patrick elektros > the muppets bro
Flass Maximus > yes, never, EVER leave a faction wreck with anything in it lol
patrick elektros > mana mana
patrick elektros > lol
Zedrik Cayne > Flass: No, always leave *something* in there
Flass Maximus > even the named smartbombs are useful out here
patrick elektros > most people dont even pay attention to that shit
patrick elektros > i do
Zedrik Cayne > So someone wanders up to it to check it out.
patrick elektros > most dont
Zedrik Cayne > *then* you blow them up.
patrick elektros > well some at anyrate
Flass Maximus > yeah if you are baiting
Flass Maximus > but if you are running a Jewmmunity then one would empty it so peeps DONT come and have a sniff around
Zedrik Cayne > Homophobic and anti-semetic in local...
Zedrik Cayne > Great neighborhood you have here.
Flass Maximus > Sorry. Joommunity
Flass Maximus > its a seperate meaning relating to massive income
Flass Maximus > :D
patrick elektros > jew's are psrt of eve, if you feel as though there are anti-semites, you shoutl goto hisec, lol
patrick elektros > you'll find alot there too
Zedrik Cayne > Wow patrick.... I really think you are upset at my presence.
patrick elektros > not upset, upset i cant shooot you cause you cloaked yes
Zedrik Cayne > So, you are upset.
Flass Maximus > unattainability is frustrating as hell
Zedrik Cayne > I am attainable, you guys got me a couple days ago.
patrick elektros > common, if i was upset it show more
patrick elektros > flass knows me ask him
Flass Maximus > he has a point
Flass Maximus > he does love to rage
patrick elektros > xD
Flass Maximus > a fine example of a BDEAL vocal assault Vessel
patrick elektros > well i goto get some sleep
Flass Maximus > its s really effective kind of ECM
Zedrik Cayne > Calling me out in a Talos using homophobic language like a teenager? Sounds 'mad' to me as the vernacular goes.
patrick elektros > whats your uptimes zed soon to be dead
patrick elektros > ?
Zedrik Cayne > I'm east coast US. So I'll let you do the math.
patrick elektros > lol same times zone

I punch up the dscan to see what there is to see...and he's not renamed his new ship after fitting...this aught to at the very least make his alliance mates chuckle.

Zedrik Cayne > PS: Patrick..don't be a scrub.
Zedrik Cayne > Rename your ship already.
patrick elektros > awe common man
patrick elektros > whe  i wannna pretend i'm raging ima pretend it right
Flass Maximus > um
Flass Maximus > pwned
Zedrik Cayne > Before you guys locked your wiki down...I think that was in the so you are new to 0.0 section.
patrick elektros > first time i raged my dramiel got webbed n scrammed in a lowsec site and eve crahsed on me, came back to a pod and i quit eve for like 20 days
patrick elektros > after that i jsut cba to give a fuck
Flass Maximus > first time i rage quit i lost a drake with a full set of BLueprints to cuild a chimera
patrick elektros > so if i loose a shit it's for lulz
patrick elektros > if i loose a ship to a rat, well that doesnt happen anymore
patrick elektros > n i rather fight people n i cant see you
Flass Maximus > yeah losing ships to serpentis sucks balls
patrick elektros > ;'[
patrick elektros > caus you claoeked
patrick elektros > boohooooo
patrick elektros > the last idea that made me almost quit was when ccp didnt put out that torp naga
patrick elektros > that would have been sweeet
Flass Maximus > omg yes
Flass Maximus > i was so pissed when they decided to give us two hybrid bosts instead of a full range
Flass Maximus > boats
patrick elektros > yeah
Zedrik Cayne > They have issues with missle boats and lag. Which is probably the main reason.
patrick elektros > ARMOR HACK
patrick elektros > lol
Zedrik Cayne > And the upcoming nerf to the drake might help that score a bit more.
Flass Maximus > true but they have been improving that for a LONG time now
Flass Maximus > true that
patrick elektros > fuck the drake
Zedrik Cayne > I'd rather not...too angular.
patrick elektros > it's got no dps even with the fuckin bonus
patrick elektros > lol
patrick elektros > funny

Let's see how the rest of my time out here goes.

New war, same idiotic behaviors.

War like this never really changes.

So, I log on. Run a cursory locate on the CEO, only thing happening on the watch list. Yup..Iges. So I go on about my regular business when I get a private conversation:

Zedrik Cayne > Hiding out in Iges are we?
Sutairn > where are you hiding
Zedrik Cayne > Locator agents...you should know about them by now. I suggest you go find one you can use.
Sutairn > come out and play
Sutairn > I didn't think you would hide
Zedrik Cayne > I actually have better things to do than go and chase down one guy.
Sutairn > your a 2006 toon come on man
Zedrik Cayne > Can flipping comes to mind.
Sutairn > try something new 1v1
Zedrik Cayne > If you are in a fair fight, you are doing something wrong.
Sutairn > you have 2 members
Sutairn > I told you what my corp did
Sutairn > I had 47 member I am don to 20
Zedrik Cayne > Yup..in about four hours I'll be at war with that.

Okay, let's see where he is at now...Tolle...Not too far away. Grab an arbitrator and head on over.

Sutairn > they all merged with the brozs
Sutairn > with what you didn't put a wardec on an alliance who lives in foutain that would just be silly
Zedrik Cayne > Heh...I saw several members in highsec as I was wandering around.
Sutairn > you actually put a wardec with an alliance who is part of the CFC
Sutairn > no way your not that stupid
Sutairn > you said yourself your not stupid
Zedrik Cayne > And besides, it will give the entire command chain a wake up call...and wonder why the hell they are getting dec'd.
Sutairn > do you know what the CFC is
Sutairn > goons test FA ...
Zedrik Cayne > And do you think that they are going to at all care about wardeccing a single guy?
Sutairn > politics are crazy man is why I didn't want to put my corp in and just merged I wanted to stay out of it
Sutairn > those guys are off their rockers role playing
Zedrik Cayne > Exactly..guys like me are a pain in the ass..
Sutairn > I don't know what will happen if you did that will be fun to find out
Sutairn > but I think it will take over my little fun I wanted to have a shame I was looking forward to it

And, sit within d-scan of the station.

Zedrik Cayne > While we were talking I located you. You can undock at any point.
Sutairn > okay hold on still fitting my ship
Zedrik Cayne > 'Hey, where you hiding..I was expecting more...oh wait...I need to fit my ship.'
Zedrik Cayne > A drake..heh.

He's either overtanked, or properly pvp fit. One way and we're stalemated...the other and I've got a decent shot at killing it. Warp in while we're chatting.

Sutairn > yes is a fine ship
Sutairn > your an amarr pilot I didn't expect that
Sutairn > I have no launchers yet
Sutairn > but didn't want to diappoint you
Zedrik Cayne > Seriously overtanked drake.
Sutairn > those are jut your drones put some guns on me
Sutairn > if I wanted over tanked I would go a passive shield tanks mrym
Sutairn > you ot a microphone yet
Sutairn > you lpay BF3
Sutairn > how about supreme commander
Zedrik Cayne > Scuse me a moment.

Wife aggro and kid aggro...

Sutairn > don't you have something with a little more dps
Zedrik Cayne > You're the one who declared war, not me.
Sutairn > we built a wall
Sutairn > this movie we boght a zoo is great

Head over to Dodixie...Naga plus blasters. Guns in two groups.

Sutairn > welcome back
Sutairn > Naga really
Sutairn > you have a wide range of ship skills
Sutairn > tornado amarr cruiser
Sutairn > naga
Sutairn > must have the gallente aswell
Zedrik Cayne > You haven't even done a cursory intel check?
Zedrik Cayne > But it looks like I don't quite have enough dps for that tank.

Come on...aggress...I don't have the dps to break your tank...right? Right?

Sutairn > no you need 600dps
Sutairn > never seen a naga at use
Zedrik Cayne > It is my first one.
Sutairn > you mind linking your fit
Zedrik Cayne > Of course I do.
Sutairn > come on we are friends
Zedrik Cayne > Scuse me again.
Sutairn > hurry back this ime
Sutairn > time
Sutairn > try a hyperion
Sutairn > or abaddon

At this point. It is dinner and kids bed..so by the time I get back he's left the conversation. But wait..there are a couple more guys online...who have *not* left corp.

http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12165884

Sutairn > hello
Zedrik Cayne > You should really inform your guys that are still left.
Zedrik Cayne > That I am still wandering around.
Sutairn > you kill someone
Zedrik Cayne > http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12165884
Sutairn > nno one is suppose to be left my corp except me if is slow to leave
Zedrik Cayne > He didn't say anything in corp?
Zedrik Cayne > You have at least three guys on right now.
Sutairn > no he is someone's brother doesn't have a mic
Sutairn > I actually do have 3 besdies me
Sutairn > I have never had the problem of having members not leave the coro and being to active
Zedrik Cayne > Brb..stuipd closed vote/no applicable actions bug.

And no, it isn't the bug where the vote won't show up unless you relog. It is the human bug where one forgets to vote for war...start another vote..

And find guy #2:

http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12166432

Looks like they are both mission running during war. Not smart. Oh well, my vote for the league should be ready now. I'll hit the war this evening. As for now I'm invading fountain slowly.

The new guys have it backwards...I think.

So, my targets have moved. They went to the Jaschercis. I hit local, warp in, bookmark some cans...warp out and come back with a hauler. And start stealing.

My mail blinks...war declared! (And here I thought they had forgotten about me) So I get a private conversation:
       
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, I was wondering if you were going to be all talk.
Zedrik Cayne > I had my own dec prepped already in case you tried to ignore your threats.
Sutairn > my corpis merging into the brozs part of the important spaceship people I am staying nehind won't be going to fountain I look forward to our little fun that is to come
Zedrik Cayne > Well, with war declared you aren't merging anywhere.
Sutairn > the guy you talked to so much last night long stroker check him he already has
Sutairn > the name of the corp is no just my active members
Zedrik Cayne > An, so you are saying stroker is just a windbag?
Sutairn > no stroker is a great member
Zedrik Cayne > The whole 'we are legion' was just crap?
Zedrik Cayne > That's pretty priceless.
Sutairn > all my god member and my main will go to the crp he is at
Sutairn > good
Sutairn > it is just going to be you and me my friend

Yes, you read it right... they declare war while they bail on the corp. (Isn't that backwards?)

Zedrik Cayne > I'm not your friend buddy.
Zedrik Cayne > Afk for feeding children. Can't wait.
Sutairn > I am not your friend yet we play a game together and tell me about your home life
Sutairn > I am confused
Sutairn > I think social protocal would suggest I am your friend
Zedrik Cayne > Nah, just telling you that I am not ignoring you. But I'm a bit busy.
Zedrik Cayne > (and PS: The schtick goes 'I am not your friend buddy...' 'I am not your buddy pal....' 'I am not your pal friend.....')
Sutairn > I like it.
Sutairn > so where are you from
Sutairn > do you have any kind of coms
Sutairn > or can you join voice
Sutairn > I really hate typing
Zedrik Cayne > Heh...I don't do voice. I catch mucho wife aggro for it.

And I go afk for a while...and decided to wander back in much later. There is a pod, a wreck of a mackinaw.

Zedrik Cayne > What happened to yetixstomp?
Zedrik Cayne > (Genuine question...I'm setup for a gank myself. But I didn't do him.
Sutairn > that dumb ass let himelf get killed by rats
Zedrik Cayne > *facepalm*

So, I wait some more...go buy a new Tornado, fit it up..group the guns...fly back...

[ 2012.01.16 03:18:13 ] (combat) Your 1400mm Gallium Cannon hits Mudo Daccord [FPCOT](Mackinaw), doing 329.1 damage.

Huh? What? Single gun..not a group. I don't even have all the guns on my control panel..they are all grouped under F1.

So, I fail a suicide gank (petition filed for the bug...don't think they will reimburse a ship I was going to lose anyhow)

Watch your gun grouping folks!

Is this thing still on? The IEEE gets dec'd for reals!

So I've headed back to Tolle. Since the ice interdiction has lifted it has gotten busy. Full of miners with bad habits.

There's a nice group of three, couple cans...FLIPPIN TIME! To which I get a nice private conversation:

Sutairn > Hows it going
Zedrik Cayne > Yes?
Zedrik Cayne > Profitably, how is your evening?
Sutairn > yes to be a question to you what is it you are assuming
Sutairn > you seem to have the question around here
Sutairn > might you be interested in finding the answer
Zedrik Cayne > Well, I should have said 'Yes' Before you asked how it was going. But that's immaterial.
Sutairn > Words most of the time are, well here are my questions are you in it for the profit or a fight?
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, I'm in it for the learning.
Zedrik Cayne > Or at least your learning. What have we learned this evening so far?
Sutairn > well people don;t mine like I just was so I wouldn't waste your time thinking your going to find others doing that
Zedrik Cayne > Funny..there were three folks in belt mining into cans.. Unusual.
Sutairn > next if it is profit you seek you might want to go somewhere you can catch big fish instead of 325K blocks of ice
Sutairn > go kill some rats in low sec their drops will be worth this much or more and weigh a lot less
Sutairn > Merco
Sutairn > go give it a try
Zedrik Cayne > Losec placid? That hellhole?
Sutairn > dear god it is paradise compared to tolle
Sutairn > try providence or cloud ring null
Sutairn > you will love placid after that
Zedrik Cayne > If you are going to suggest 'rat low sec' at least suggest some blood raider territory for better drops and salvage.
Sutairn > if you mean to say you know what your talking about you just enjoy griefing
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, but it isn't grief. I make my money, you remember a valuable lesson about mining.
Zedrik Cayne > It is a win win situation.
Zedrik Cayne > If I really wanted to grieve. I would have just wiped your mining vessels off of the belt.
Sutairn > well I have no grief I just feel your a littl boy who needs to be fixed cause he has been hurt in the past
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, a qualified psychotherapist are we?
Sutairn > well I only get paid to work with the MR population
Zedrik Cayne > They are the ones who really need it. The lack of diversity in PVE content is depressing.
Zedrik Cayne > Enough to drive anyone insane.
Sutairn > so why such a small corp why not join a group of pirates wh knows what they are doing
Zedrik Cayne > As a qualified psychotherapist, you should be able to figure that one out yourself by applying the various stereotypes.
Sutairn > most of the time it isn't for me to figure out
Zedrik Cayne > You're the one who asked the question.
Sutairn > the questions are asked so the person can look into the mirror and adress the issue of their life aloud
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, so you are trying to 'help' me.
Sutairn > Okay well you know most of the toons in belts like this are bots and only real people who take the time to mine mine as i was so why not try and pick on the bots in the game and leave the real peope alone
Sutairn > you would be a hero amoung pirates and miners then
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, the bots use the cans as well.
Zedrik Cayne > Significantly easier on the management even with an orca.
Zedrik Cayne > The schtick is to find them when they are operating in that mode.
Zedrik Cayne > The ones who don't get noted for hulkageddon.
Sutairn > People in EVE should unit against CCP and end things such as this hulkageddon you speak of only used to help CCP earn more real $$$.
Sutairn > you think about it makes me wonder what jew was behind WWII
Zedrik Cayne > You have an objection to CCP making money?
Sutairn > are you jewish
Sutairn > if so I have wasted my time
Zedrik Cayne > No, but it wouldn't matter.
Sutairn > okay well was fun last attempt was an humor
Sutairn > I can see nothing is gett through to you
Zedrik Cayne > You've not tried to make a point.
Zedrik Cayne > Other than to tell me how to play the game.
Sutairn > what relgion are you
Sutairn > I have no point
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, bored then talking to me?
Sutairn > want to come to Iges with me?
Sutairn > we can stop taklking and make this a little more physical
Zedrik Cayne > How about Ruerrotta instead? More of a neutral lowsec.
Sutairn > explain
Sutairn > whats neutral about it
Zedrik Cayne > It isn't connected to your home base.
Zedrik Cayne > You linked that already.
Sutairn > well for that to be true you would hv needed to tell me where your homebase is
Zedrik Cayne > But it is relativley close.
Zedrik Cayne > I used to stomp the area five years ago.
Sutairn > upi skipped a couple steps in tht convo
Zedrik Cayne > It is a lowsec that getting friends of yours into would be more difficult than Iges for example. It is quiet this time of night, unless someone is pulling technitium from the moon there.
Sutairn > wait a sec the system you linked has a tech moon
Sutairn > a low sec system
Sutairn > got to call bull shit on that one
Zedrik Cayne > One moment...
Zedrik Cayne > http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Ruerrotta/moons
Sutairn > 1 ice field and a tech moon
Zedrik Cayne > With thick blue ice. Used to mine there a long..long time ago.
Zedrik Cayne > There are three ice fields in that constellation.
Sutairn > you aren't a liar I am sorry
Sutairn > womever owns that system makes a killing
Zedrik Cayne > The nominal 'owners' dont' own that moon.
Sutairn > shame
Zedrik Cayne > It is controlled by whichever of the big alliances rolls over it.
Zedrik Cayne > Last time I rolled through there it was razor.
Sutairn > we use to be friends with razor in providence
Zedrik Cayne > I was KOS in providence, see? We have something in common. I've not been back in two years tho.
Zedrik Cayne > It is a good day when I can steal ice faster than I can mine it. It hasn't been this busy since before the goons did the ice interdiction.

The whole while I'm busy carting off the blue blocks for sale. 325k indeed for a blue cube. The ice interdiction has made this much more profitable than it was previously.

I keep up with these gentlemen for a couple days. Their CEO appears in a Dramael but he doesn't seem to have tackle (and I wasn't in the iteron of doom at the time..grumble)

I went afk in the belt in a helios. And noticed upon coming back to the PC that they had a new pilot in local. Flying a Nemesis. But they were no longer mining into cans, so it didn't really matter. Until the next day:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15015246

In the meantime. I haven't had a chance to try out one of those new tier three battlecruisers. So I nip off to buy one. Seeing my newest victim in a Hyperion. I figure he's mad.

I get back, brand spanking new Tornado...full of 1400mm goodness...It would seem they are very effective.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15015245

Zedrik Cayne > This suicide gank brought to you by the letters g, a, n and k.
Long Stroker > haha you smoke pole for a living dont you?
Zedrik Cayne > I think someone sounds a bit hurt over losing a stealth bomber to an iteron mark v.
Patsakos > lol i wanna see that killmail :P
Zedrik Cayne > http://ieee.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12137463
Long Stroker > not hurt at all really im excited about the hunt
Long Stroker > i can admit i didnt see it comeing but hey you live you learn
Patsakos > wow
Long Stroker > now i cant wait to war deck you its going to be fun really
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, this aught to be amusing.
Long Stroker > yes it should be
Long Stroker > see u in war then
Long Stroker > cast my vote zedrick
Zedrik Cayne > I beleive the expression goes 'Not if I see you first' :)
Long Stroker > pew pew verry soon
Long Stroker > in a low sec system near u
Long Stroker > lol
Zedrik Cayne > You are starting war.
Long Stroker > you will not enjoy this
Long Stroker > this will be painfull
Zedrik Cayne > You do not know me very well.
Long Stroker > we do not forgive
Long Stroker > we do not forget
Long Stroker > wer legion
Zedrik Cayne > You just mine  horribly?
Long Stroker > we are pew pew lol
Long Stroker > im not a miner
Long Stroker > as you can tell im not in a hulk
Zedrik Cayne > You just lose a perfectly well fit nemesis to an iteron?
Long Stroker > yes i did my orbit didnt take effect
Zedrik Cayne > (Oooh, someone who thinks they know how the mechanics work..how cute)
Long Stroker > simply u scared
Long Stroker > lol
Long Stroker > and soon you will be mad lol
Long Stroker > i can war deck you and your alt for years lmao
Long Stroker > you mad?
Zedrik Cayne > Oh, which alt is mine now?
Long Stroker > all 2 memebers of your corperation
Zedrik Cayne > http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=FP+Council+of+Trust
Zedrik Cayne > Man...I am *so* scared.
Long Stroker > lol
Zedrik Cayne > Oh my. That is my old stomping grounds out there.
Long Stroker > well you wont have to go far we will be right here looking for u
Long Stroker > =)
Long Stroker > come flip a can so we can start this thing now
Long Stroker > ill come flip one of your cans if ou like
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, you see...you assume I am dumb.
Long Stroker > ill flip your can i dont mind taking agresson
Long Stroker > you can run to station any time lol
Long Stroker > your gona be in that station alot
Long Stroker > i hope you get adjusted to it
Long Stroker > you knpw they have a ship spinner counter now
Zedrik Cayne > Ah, but you assume you can keep me in. Or dictate the terms of ship to ship battle.
Long Stroker > i assume no such thing
Long Stroker > anything can happen in war
Zedrik Cayne > Long Stroker > your gona be in that station alot
Long Stroker > lol
Long Stroker > i hope u dont disapoint me
Zedrik Cayne > Who are you now, my mother?
Long Stroker > nop your dady
Zedrik Cayne > My father was always dissapointed in me. Maybe you are my father.
Zedrik Cayne > You do know, by the way, that all elite PVP players have the rat damage types in their bio....
Long Stroker > nope they dont, but people who run level 4s and 5s do. its a good little chart to have when fitting fora mission.
Long Stroker > i dont claim to be an expert, but im no coward. and a can sence alot of bitch in you
Mauddib77 > you guys sound like a married couple
Long Stroker > go put a containier out so i can flip it bro
Long Stroker > give you the right to shoot me so you can run and hide
Zedrik Cayne > I can shoot you or your buddies any time I please, as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences.
Zedrik Cayne > By the way, your corporate URL is broken.

So, for a change, the IEEE has gotten dec'd. At the same time, I should probably start a vote just in case theirs doesn't happen or something.