They thought it was a good idea at the time.

This blog post is an amalgamation of corporate 'public' chats...CPR PUB and I.M.M Local. Heavily edited for length and content.

CPR pub is the public channel for CONCORD Preservation and Recovery. Who declared war on Otherworld Empire. I.M.M is the corporation that contains the main for the ceo of CPR. And I.M.M is a member of Systematic-Chaos. All of whom have been wardec'd by the IEEE.




EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to CPR Pub. You are either here because we want to speak to as you are our friend or because we are shooting you. To get us to stop shooting offer us a nice ransom.
Zedrik Cayne > Good afternoon.
Zedrik Cayne > Who is in charge of this bad mistake?
Zedrik Cayne > I'll wait...I am patient.
Zedrik Cayne > At any rate...Who is in charge of all this? I'm too lazy to open the corp show info right now.
Paknac Queltel > the CEO just left
Sumi Ie > i wish i knew who ran this popsicle stand too sometimes, but im too lazy to open a corp window as well
Lord FunkyMunky > ya and we're all in charge when hes gone
Lord FunkyMunky > gets a lil confusing but it works loil
Sumi Ie > lol, taht explains so much!
Zedrik Cayne > Ah...a democracy.
Lord FunkyMunky > no no
Lord FunkyMunky > not democracy
Lord FunkyMunky > we're each a king in our own minds
Lord FunkyMunky > like the other day told sumi we were going to fly south and he told me were going to fly north and somehow we ended up going east
Sumi Ie > and then we still ended up going west
Lord FunkyMunky > lol
Lord FunkyMunky > so whats it u need dude
Zedrik Cayne > You've declared war vs. Chribba.
Lord FunkyMunky > uh ok
Lord FunkyMunky > thats more statement than question
Amadaus Tesla > The implied question is : "What were you thinking?"
Lord FunkyMunky > lol
Lord FunkyMunky > well we were smoking weed and drinking a lot and ya.. seemed smart at the time
Zedrik Cayne > So, who is in charge of that mistake?
Zedrik Cayne > It is very much against published standards and practices to actually dec Chribba..So we are going to open an impromptu investigation.
Lord FunkyMunky > whos this chribba anyway i hear so much about him
Zedrik Cayne > We'll be seeing you in..what...48 hours then?
Lord FunkyMunky > so lets see... 24 hrs we get 24 hrs to deal with pos's then we get to dock up and go to sleep till everyone gets tired of wardecing us not a bad thing i guess
Sumi Ie > epic win for us
Siona Atreus > Our epeen blots out the sun.
Lord FunkyMunky > i mean even if epi decides to close CPR lol, we'd still go down in history as one of the only people to attack chribba i think
Paknac Queltel > The only one foolish enough to try, I think
Lord FunkyMunky > lol
Sumi Ie > id call us fool hardy not foolish
Lord FunkyMunky > didnt we get 1 tower already?
Paknac Queltel > tomayto tomahto
Amadaus Tesla > you might as well go for it. Make some history
Lord FunkyMunky > and considering the insurance prices on t1 ships lately vs price, not like we have much to loose
Prometheus09 > a press release has been released
Prometheus09 > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1241818&page=2
Sumi Ie > being an eco terrorist has to be the hardest job in eve, no one takes you seriously!
Zedrik Cayne > And if you are going to dock up for the duration of the war...I hope you like the inside of a station.
Siona Atreus > you think with how nice the planets look.. more would take our path
Zedrik Cayne > I've has one corp pretty well continuously dec'd for three months now.
Siona Atreus > i has cheeseburgers
Siona Atreus > cookie, want one?
Zedrik Cayne > I have lots of cookies.
Sumi Ie > you think were gonna sit bored in stations?
Sumi Ie > lol
Siona Atreus > gay porn site cookies dont count.
Ocnathor > you know we are alt corp dont you
Zedrik Cayne > Lord FunkyMunky > so lets see... 24 hrs we get 24 hrs to deal with pos's then we get to dock up and go to sleep till everyone gets tired of wardecing us not a bad thing i guess
Siona Atreus > well, that is one person.
Siona Atreus > -> bio,
Zedrik Cayne > Well...y'all were saying that you kind of all run things as a collective. So i took it as authoritative.
Siona Atreus > mm CEO is the authoritative figure.
Sumi Ie > lol, you took what he was saying seriously?
Siona Atreus > rope a dope.
Zedrik Cayne > Please...The IEEE is very serious.
Siona Atreus > r u stealing music or something?
Zedrik Cayne > That's the RIAA.
Siona Atreus > ah..
Zedrik Cayne > Not the IEEE
Siona Atreus > so..
Siona Atreus > would all of this chatter be considered "carebear acts"?
Sumi Ie > for a guy how bashes carebears in his bio, you really seem like one
Zedrik Cayne > Carebear acts are not strictly against published standards and practices.
Prometheus09 > now no smacktalking people keep it nice and civil
Siona Atreus > rgr
Zedrik Cayne > Let me guess.... Prometheus09 == Epimithius09
Prometheus09 > aye

Some time later after wardecs start rolling in.

Lord FunkyMunky > how bad off are we
Alopecoida > you'
Alopecoida > re fine....we were just bored....there's only 2 of us active really
Lord FunkyMunky > lol
Lord FunkyMunky > its funny how much crap we stired up lol, definitly worth the giggles
Alopecoida > yes thanks
Lord FunkyMunky > da well such is the way eve goes lol
Bela'flek > o/... anything going on tonight?
Epimithius09 > not at them moment
Amadaus Tesla > we found joe the p.
Bela'flek > any chance of undocking my geddon and shooting osmething soon?
Lord FunkyMunky > probably not lol
Bela'flek > :(
Epimithius09 > http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1241818
Bela'flek > kk
Epimithius09 > have a read
Epimithius09 > i take it you dont know whats going on yet
Bela'flek > yeah, read that las tnight.
Bela'flek > anything going to comeof that?
Epimithius09 > 5 so far
Bela'flek > egads
Bela'flek > is this going to be a docking festival for the forseeable future then?
Epimithius09 > im working on it I have a solution
Bela'flek > k.. should I log on as my in-corp alt and read something?
Epimithius09 > yeah
Bela'flek > kk
Lord FunkyMunky > this is histerical in all reality
Lord FunkyMunky > chribba drummed up all this support
Lord FunkyMunky > all these people waisting cash decing
Siona Atreus > phunny
Lord FunkyMunky > only to get well ... hmm.... the pos?
Bela'flek > yeah, sounds like a lot of  i <3 chribba me-too-ers.
Lord FunkyMunky > i know u'd think more people wud be against chribba, i mean i know hes a nice guy from what i hear, but come on the dudes got highsec dread, no budys jelous lol i am
Zedrik Cayne > Oh....add me to the list of chribba lovers.
Major Stallion > i ♥ Zedrik tbh
Aresse > me too!
Lord FunkyMunky > ok ok theirs a thread for the I love chribba talk
Lord FunkyMunky > lol
BattleGerbil > so, this is getting even better
BattleGerbil > Joe Phoenix has offered us an alliance
BattleGerbil pokes Zedrick in the eye with a stick.  Wake up.
BattleGerbil > oh, wait.  It is probably 4am Zedrik's time.  He fell asleep, and now has ASDF implanted on his forehead.
BattleGerbil > corp is currently reading the Joe Show

And...even later once shooting starts:

EnderCapitalG > You guys killed anyone yet?
Epimithius09 > us or them
EnderCapitalG > you
Epimithius09 > we have killed each other
EnderCapitalG > The "good" guys :P
Epimithius09 > got 8 osprey kill or so
EnderCapitalG > So, if a POS is "at war", and somebody RR's, it, are they a target?
Epimithius09 > and lost a few BS etc
EnderCapitalG > Oh. Guess so :D
EnderCapitalG > morons don't know how2/eve/
EnderCapitalG > You pew pew chribba's POS up?
Epimithius09 > nah to manny RR
Epimithius09 > about 40ish i think
EnderCapitalG > kill all the RR? lol
EnderCapitalG > too many people sucking chribba's cawk
Epimithius09 > we tired
Epimithius09 > tried
Epimithius09 > then they killed us
Epimithius09 > then we killed them
Epimithius09 > etc etc
Epimithius09 > all good fun though lol
EnderCapitalG > :)
EnderCapitalG > kb link?
Epimithius09 > http://cpr.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5203470
Epimithius09 > got to put more up
EnderCapitalG > sweet
EnderCapitalG > I heard about you guys scooping that POS
Epimithius09 > that was fun
EnderCapitalG > those are some shitty fit ospreys.
Epimithius09 > havent looked
EnderCapitalG > no plates
EnderCapitalG > at all
EnderCapitalG > Did they not know that you could shoot them?
Epimithius09 > they proberly did
Epimithius09 > /emote shrugs i dont care
EnderCapitalG > lol
EnderCapitalG > I just find it amusing if they didn't. LET'S HELP HIM ALTHOUGH WE KNOW NO MECHANICS OF PVP
Epimithius09 > not all of them. Noir for instance are good pvpers

And finally, in the I.M.M Local channel

Zedrik Cayne > Hello future wartargets.....I've been trying to get a diplo on the horn for two days now.
Serizawa Kaho > hello fail guy
Serizawa Kaho > so a 18 member corp war decks a 1700 strong alliance?
Serizawa Kaho > find that smart or stupid?
Daquaris > Bear with Kaho, apparently she's celebrating new years early.... And, it's 2800 Kaho, lol.
Serizawa Kaho > ok
Serizawa Kaho > well anyways i still find his logic even worse then mine
Zedrik Cayne > This is not 'logical' it is an investigation.
Cosner > wat seems to be the problem here?
Hallan Turrek > I am also investigating!
Hallan Turrek > Who left this lobster in my pants!
Serizawa Kaho > so thats where i left it
Zedrik Cayne > First of all..its really disturbing to be talking with Cosner
Serizawa Kaho > why is that?
Zedrik Cayne > /emote used to fly with the original owner
Serizawa Kaho > hawkeye?
Zedrik Cayne > No..the original original owner
Cosner > lolz funny thing is i got him cheap
Cosner > under a bil for a 12 mil sp char
Cosner > skills a bit messy but all good now
Zedrik Cayne > At any rate. The reason a wardec has come your way is because one of your members has done something incredibly stupid.
Serizawa Kaho > again do you think war decing a 2800 man alliance is smart/
Serizawa Kaho > ?
Cosner > kaho shh
Hallan Turrek > Intellegence is in the eye of the beholder.
Serizawa Kaho > ok :(
Cosner > ok wat has 1 of my members done
Hallan Turrek > May I offer this: A small corporation will find it easy to be a thorn in the side of a larger corporation. It's hard to crush what you cannot see.
Cosner > btw war decin 0.0 alliance not a good idea we have an alt hauling corp :P
Zedrik Cayne > Wardeclared Chribba
Hallan Turrek > Yeah, this is because of the alt corp of some of your members Deccing Chribba.
Cosner > did he use my corps name?
Hallan Turrek > Unfortunately it's easily traced back to you. The Leader of it never kept it secret that he was one of your alts.
Hallan Turrek > Your being corp members
Hallan Turrek > alliance member, what have you
Cosner > wat is this alt corp called?
Hallan Turrek > He used his alt corp to dec Chribba, and we know who he is. So here we stand, looking at you and wondering why.
Hallan Turrek > CONCORD Preservation and Recovery
Zedrik Cayne > CONCORD Preservation and Recovery
Cosner > nothinik to do with us maybe a members personal corp
Hallan Turrek > It has everything to do with you. It's an alt corp. He's going to stay docked up with that alt until the dec goes away.
Cosner > so plzz tell me y you guys would come into another corps pub channel act like kids?
Hallan Turrek > So that brings us to your doorstep.
Cosner > im missing the point
Kan3r Blaze > Hallan, check corp chat
Cosner > how does it have everythink to do with us?
Hallan Turrek > About ten corps have declared war on your member's alt corp. He's gone into hiding. But we know who he is and where he's hiding. So we're asking for answers.
Zedrik Cayne > Like children? I've been nothing but respectful here. And it has to do with you because you have allowed someone incredibly stupid among your ranks. This has caused the IEEE to take notice and put through an impromptu investigation.
Cosner > oi shh il get to u in a min
Hallan Turrek > Look, in understand your position.
Serizawa Kaho > so a member who is well a member did something bad to you so you take it out on a much larger corp?
Hallan Turrek > He dIdn't do anything bad to me.
Cosner > so let me get this right hallan ur angry 1 of my members war dec chribba but at the end of the day its 2 diffenet corps tht have nothink incommom
Hallan Turrek > I quite like Prometheus.
Hallan Turrek > Angry isn't the right word, See Zed over there? He's angry. You asked a question about why we were hanging out in your channel.
Cosner > as far as i care tht corp is full of newbs i dont put my name on it
Hallan Turrek > I think I've answered that one.
Cosner > zed over there is a fool tbf
Hallan Turrek > I suppose only Zed can answer to that one. ;)
Cosner > [10:13:04] Zedrik Cayne > This is not 'logical' it is an investigation.
Cosner > investigation. of wat
Cosner > i thought u knew everythink b4 coming here or u wouldnt be wasting my guys time or ur time
Cosner > pretty stupiding walkin to a lion den wen its time for food no?
Zedrik Cayne > The IEEE uupholds the published standards and practices for the proper operation of alliances, corporations, and most professions in eve
Serizawa Kaho > then why don't you wardec goons?
Serizawa Kaho > they have none of that
Cosner > im guessing u didnt do ur history of my corp?
Serizawa Kaho > ^
Zedrik Cayne > You have been found harboring at least one person who has been found to be egregiously in violation of said standards
Serizawa Kaho > roleplay?
Cosner > batman its time to go back to the forums nd have a lil look at wat we are nd wat we do
Zedrik Cayne > I will admit to not having done much research...as the violations were so egregious it weas felt that pulling the trigger on an investigation was in the best interest of the universe.
Serizawa Kaho > what he do blow up a carebear or something?
Serizawa Kaho > BTW do you have any hulk pilots in your corp?
Zedrik Cayne > I am a hulk pilot
Cosner > zed im sorry but tht not good enought u have faild at ur mission nd u need to hand down ur hat to the next person no fool jumps off a clif without checking the drop first
Cosner > u mitee aswell just sell ur char
Zedrik Cayne > I am afraid that your opinion of my 'success' holds very little water. But time will tell.
Serizawa Kaho > ok again your a industrail corp who war dec a 0.0 war machine alliance?
Cosner > ur still a newb dressing up as superman
Serizawa Kaho > where is the logic in that?
Cosner > u cant make a diffenets in this game if u just sit back nd have a head the size of a contry
Hallan Turrek > Zed, I must admit this ia bit of an epic troll.
Cosner > :)
Serizawa Kaho > lol
Cosner > well if he did his research first he would expect it no?
Serizawa Kaho > ask around molden heath about I.M.M
Hallan Turrek > Oh lord. You're believing him.
Hallan Turrek > Sorry Zed, keep going.
Serizawa Kaho > show me your boobies?
Cosner > lolz
Zedrik Cayne > Ask around highsec about the IEEE.
Cosner > thts high sec
Serizawa Kaho > i have they all say the same thing
Serizawa Kaho > you give good head no?
Zedrik Cayne > I'm doing a bit of research right now...EXALTED say you are terribad,,,c/d?
Cosner > hears the thing in high sec no one care who u are ur just like the rest of the lemons auto piloting around
Serizawa Kaho > ^
Serizawa Kaho > you know Exalted is fail right?
Cosner > ok best u can come up with is the mom we lost due to spy
Serizawa Kaho > actually exalted calls everybody fail
Cosner > well we replaced it with in hours
Cosner > no biggy
Serizawa Kaho > shut up women get on my horse
Cosner > but the fact lie u have no rep around 0.0 or low sec no one knows who u r
Cosner > so y act like the big bad wolf
Cosner > u can keep huffin nd puffin but my house is made from steel bro
Serizawa Kaho > huff and puff and try to blow down your house just to get your ass kicked by a pig in a brick house?
Cosner > nd yes ur prob right i have a big head
Cosner > but ur the 1 making it bigger
Serizawa Kaho > your getting a hard on
Serizawa Kaho > ?
Cosner > -.-
Cosner > kaho ur a fool
Zedrik Cayne > At any rate...I am certain a chat will be had again.
Zedrik Cayne > Down time and all.

Yes..they thought it was a good idea at the time

Joe tries to reason with...one of my fellow decers.

Joe opens this conversation with one of the other guys who have declared war in the more recent days...

Joe Phoenix > hi there
w1lds1n3 > Ah, the infamous Joe Phoenix...
w1lds1n3 > So, was there something you wanted to say? Or can I get back to my other business?
Joe Phoenix > yes im just curious
Joe Phoenix > why you have dec'ed the commonwealth
w1lds1n3 > Simple really, I agree completely with Zedrik's current position against you, and have aligned my corporation with his compaign against you.
w1lds1n3 > This kind of work isn't normally my corporation's cup of tea, but in this case I'm inclined to make an exception. I consider it charitable work.
Joe Phoenix > and why is that?
w1lds1n3 > Because you have no respect for anyone, don't know when to shut your mouth, fail to realize your shortcomings, and are utterly incapable of taking good advice that's offerred to you, so I'm not going to bother with that.
w1lds1n3 > Unless you're finally prepared to listen.
w1lds1n3 > Did I strike a nerve?
Joe Phoenix > i don't respect anyone? thats funny
w1lds1n3 > No, you don't.
w1lds1n3 > You disrespect your new members by not telling them what they're about to face, you disrespect the people who have tried to help you, and I've seen some of your private corp chats and such... lots of disrespect in there.
w1lds1n3 > And let's not even mention for now how you dragged Zedrik's family into this.
w1lds1n3 > That alone would be reason enough to dec you.
Joe Phoenix > oh ok im going to tell you what youv actuelly seen
w1lds1n3 > Oh, do enlighten me, Joe.
Joe Phoenix > we send a message to all new members and recruit them on the basis of this war
Joe Phoenix > "stand down as ceo" id not advice!
Joe Phoenix > and as for chat logs
Joe Phoenix > you must be an idiot to believe the ones zedrik cayne posts
w1lds1n3 > I have no reason to disbelieve him. Zedrik has always conducted himself professionally, and has never gone against his word. I've been working with him for a while now, so I would know.
Joe Phoenix > a professional wanker is not hard to achieve
w1lds1n3 > And this conversation we are having right now is confirming my belief in everything Zedrik has been saying about you.
w1lds1n3 > There may have been a time when we would have let this go with an apology and at least some sign on your behalf that you're trying to improve.
w1lds1n3 > I don't think I need to tell you that you've escalated this whole thing far beyond that now.
w1lds1n3 > Your only way out now is resignation. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better.
Joe Phoenix > i am currently on the verge of forming a massive alliance... what makes you think you can even touch me?
w1lds1n3 > We'll see how massive it is Joe. And I don't think you'll get Zedrik off your back that easily. I too have more than a few hundred million to throw away on war decs for my own amusement too, so you won't be getting rid of me either.
Joe Phoenix > see i can tell that zedrik obveasly has an obsessive mental problem...
Joe Phoenix > but i don't see you as that...
Joe Phoenix > i just see you as week minded... capable of following a mad man...
Joe Phoenix > reminds me of a certain somone...
w1lds1n3 > Hahaha... you go ahead and think that Joe, at least I'll know you're wrong. I'm in this because I dislike you every bit as much as Zedrik.
Joe Phoenix > no its because your week minded and believe the dripple zedrik comes out with
w1lds1n3 > Up until now this wasn't personal for me, continue down this path and you're only going to create another bitter enemy. You are warned.
w1lds1n3 > See Joe, this is the main problem you have...
Joe Phoenix > w1ld your a 2 bit noob... you cant touch me..
w1lds1n3 > You have an amazing ability to turn bad situations even worse
w1lds1n3 > And all you do is continue to bury yourself.
w1lds1n3 > Others have tried to help you.
w1lds1n3 > But you burn every bridge that's formed.
w1lds1n3 > Sooner or later you're going to find yourself with absolutely nobody to turn to.
Joe Phoenix > besides a large 0.0 network and a 20 corp alliance
Joe Phoenix > see w1ld your nothing!
w1lds1n3 > Ya Joe, prove it to me.
Joe Phoenix > zedrik is nothing
w1lds1n3 > You go ahead and create that alliance and show us all.
Joe Phoenix > you spam the forum all day annoying people and achieve nothing
Joe Phoenix > you can't touch me w1ld
Joe Phoenix > you don't see it..
w1lds1n3 > Maybe some day when you finally notice everything around you burns to the ground you'll realize how wrong you are. About everything.
w1lds1n3 > Until then, you just keep it up.
w1lds1n3 > I'm sure we can get 2-3 more corps to dec you.
w1lds1n3 > Hell, I might even subsidize the fees for the new entries.
w1lds1n3 > Getting expensive to dec you nowadays, cost me 8mil.
Joe Phoenix > with your pittiful 100m...
Joe Phoenix > you just don't get it..
Joe Phoenix > when the alliance is formed it will cost you 300m A WEEK to dec us
w1lds1n3 > And? You say that as though I can't afford it :)
Joe Phoenix > you cant lol
w1lds1n3 > Again, we'll see.
Joe Phoenix > so your little "group" could afford 1.2 billion a week to get there arses kicked
Joe Phoenix > 1.35 bill even
w1lds1n3 > We all have rich mains :)
Joe Phoenix > obveasly not
Joe Phoenix > 4 months and you'v done nothing.....
Joe Phoenix > its pathetic
w1lds1n3 > You obviously didn't clue into the fact that this is an alt.
Joe Phoenix > youv spent billions dec'ing us
Joe Phoenix > to no avail.....
w1lds1n3 > billions? hardly.
Joe Phoenix > yes
Joe Phoenix > not you personally
w1lds1n3 > You've lost far more than anyone on Joe's side has.
w1lds1n3 > *zedrik's
w1lds1n3 > And war fees are cheap.
Joe Phoenix > lets see
Joe Phoenix > 5 orps for 4 months
Joe Phoenix > 10m a week
Joe Phoenix > x 5
Joe Phoenix > so 50m a week
Joe Phoenix > 50 x 16
w1lds1n3 > A) Zedrik is the only one whos been at anything near constant war with you.
Joe Phoenix > 800
w1lds1n3 > So it's mostly only cost him 2mil per week.
Joe Phoenix > you just don't understand how war dec's work
w1lds1n3 > Yes I do.
Joe Phoenix > obveasly not
Joe Phoenix > but please continue to waste money
w1lds1n3 > 2mil per week + (x * 2mil) where x is the number of current wars
w1lds1n3 > pretty simple.
w1lds1n3 > And it's not a waste of money, I've got plenty to spare.
Joe Phoenix > and you will waste every fast penny befor we fall
w1lds1n3 > I make more money per week than I spend keeping a war up.
w1lds1n3 > Even if you had an alliance, I'd still be in the black.
Joe Phoenix > you just don't understand this do you
w1lds1n3 > I understand it perfectly Joe.
w1lds1n3 > You're the one that hasn't woken up to your reality yet.
w1lds1n3 > There is nothing you can do to end this. Besides resigning.
w1lds1n3 > Zedrik will not stop.
w1lds1n3 > If you don't want to resign, that's completely up to you.
w1lds1n3 > But I hope you're prepared to be dealing with him for a long time.
Joe Phoenix > this is what happens when an imovable object meet a bunch of stupid dickheads
w1lds1n3 > Because you've given him plenty of reason to keep this up, and not even for your in-game behaviour anymore either.
w1lds1n3 > No, it's gone far beyond that Joe.
w1lds1n3 > I'm absolutely astonished that you even have to ask why everyone hates you.
Joe Phoenix > well im sorry if the
Joe Phoenix > what is it
Joe Phoenix > 8 active players
Joe Phoenix > ar dec usw
Joe Phoenix > i really couldn't care less about what you think
w1lds1n3 > That's fine, that's your decision.
w1lds1n3 > You've made your bed.
Joe Phoenix > and its very comfortable thank you
w1lds1n3 > Good, because you'll be lying in it for a long time if Zedrik has his way.
Joe Phoenix > he won't
w1lds1n3 > I hate to repeat myself so often, but... we'll see.

Welcome to the Joe Show (tm). Where Joe can piss someone off mightily in under 30 minutes of direct conversation.

Joe opens peace talks.

So I wish Joe a merry christmas in local...and he convenes peace talks. Vague amusement ensues.

Zedrik Cayne > Yessir Joe?
Joe Phoenix > since it is christmas, i would like to enter into peace talk with you.
Zedrik Cayne > You know my terms.
Joe Phoenix > yes well resigning as ceo is not acceptable..
Joe Phoenix > so lets talk
Zedrik Cayne > Joe...we were just talking last night with a now ex corpmate of yours.
Joe Phoenix > i have 4 online right now
Zedrik Cayne > You are still hiring mid war. You are not fully disclosing the danger.
Joe Phoenix > ofcourse i am, if i didn't, why would they stay
Joe Phoenix > im just sick of the hatte zedrik..
Joe Phoenix > how long has this been going on now
Joe Phoenix > 3
Joe Phoenix > 3 1/2 months?
Zedrik Cayne > One would think you would be learning. If at the end of this you become an acceptable ceo...maybe its been worth it
Joe Phoenix > so you admit that i am better?
Zedrik Cayne > No, not after talking with AgnorF last night
Joe Phoenix > agnorf join and left within 30 minutes..
Joe Phoenix > i recruited him last night
Zedrik Cayne > He joined...one of our guys noticed him and camped him in.
Joe Phoenix > as is war
Zedrik Cayne > He had no clue before joining
Joe Phoenix > o recruited him with war in mind
Joe Phoenix > i*
Joe Phoenix > i did tell him, i made sure of it
Zedrik Cayne > Do you not see? You recruited a guy...who had no clue.
Zedrik Cayne > Read the chatlog
Joe Phoenix > i dont trust chatlogs
Joe Phoenix > anyway zedrik thats not why your after me is it?
Zedrik Cayne > The original reason....Is you said you were going to dec the skool
Zedrik Cayne > And didn't.
Joe Phoenix > so if i dec'ed the skool?
Joe Phoenix > and thats not the reason why now is it..
Zedrik Cayne > I would have gone away.
Joe Phoenix > but now..
Zedrik Cayne > No, now Its to get you to resign and put someone competent in place
Joe Phoenix > im more then competent
Joe Phoenix > if i wasn't, you would have destroyed me months ago
Zedrik Cayne > Joe...there is no valid game mechanic that I can apply to force you out of your corp
Joe Phoenix > or force my members out..
Zedrik Cayne > If there were...I would have done it by now.
Joe Phoenix > you'v never come up againest somone like me befor have you?
Zedrik Cayne > Oh...forcing your members out has been working
Zedrik Cayne > But you can always get more grist for the mill.
Zedrik Cayne > Like hiring from the ranks of the IEEE...pro move there
Joe Phoenix > my members are nor grist
Joe Phoenix > and lately our combat abilities are matching yours
Joe Phoenix > see zedrik im not going anywhere...
Zedrik Cayne > Yet...you still die...and your members die harder
Joe Phoenix > not really..
Joe Phoenix > are clones can get replaced...
Joe Phoenix > money is matiriel..
Zedrik Cayne > Oh...you just reminded me.
Joe Phoenix > our* matirial(
Zedrik Cayne > Freshest corpse is up to 12 mil
Joe Phoenix > 12m... thats nothing..
Joe Phoenix > see zedrik im a great ceo..
Joe Phoenix > you can't beat me
Joe Phoenix > so why waste the time
Zedrik Cayne > Why not?
Joe Phoenix > its boring.. a waste of money.. time
Joe Phoenix > no fun
Zedrik Cayne > I'm enjoying myself
Joe Phoenix > so peace talks are pointless?
Zedrik Cayne > Not at all...you could convince me that you have become a better ceo.
Zedrik Cayne > That you are not recruiting into a deathtrap.
Joe Phoenix > and how would i do that without giving you the next issue of the joe show..
Joe Phoenix > which i might add your under investigation for
Zedrik Cayne > Oh?
Joe Phoenix > yes
Joe Phoenix > by the game mods
Zedrik Cayne > Oh...excellent
Joe Phoenix > no not, thats very bad zedrik, it means you'v been a dickhead
Zedrik Cayne > See..we were having a pleasant conversation. Then you have to be insulting.
Joe Phoenix > well tell me you where not?
Joe Phoenix > im just describing how you where acting..
Zedrik Cayne > I will have to admit that telling the truth often hurts Joe. But I can pretty well stand behind any statement I've made.
Joe Phoenix > pofits are up 30% btw
Zedrik Cayne > As opposed to the various contrary statements that have come from your lips. As well as the statements from former corpmates of yours.
Joe Phoenix > corp mates that your forced out might i add
Joe Phoenix > if we didn't havr the wars on atm we would be thriving
Zedrik Cayne > Oh...glad to hear you think that.
Zedrik Cayne > Let's put it into monetary value.
Zedrik Cayne > Let's assume....and I'll be generous here
Zedrik Cayne > That you as a corporation clear...100 mil a week
Joe Phoenix > i clear 100m a day right now..
Joe Phoenix > but go on
Zedrik Cayne > Okay...700 mil a week
Zedrik Cayne > 'thriving' would be hoe much per day?
Joe Phoenix > 2-3 hundred a day
Zedrik Cayne > So..for every week///I am costing you 1.4 billion isk.
Zedrik Cayne > And all it would require is for you to step down.
Joe Phoenix > not at the moment..
Zedrik Cayne > You said without war you would be thriving,
Zedrik Cayne > Thriving would be getting you 2.1 billion a week instead of 700 mil
Joe Phoenix > yes ut at the moment we have war
Joe Phoenix > we have 800
Zedrik Cayne > You step down....and it all goes away.
Joe Phoenix > and i dont clear 100 myself every day
Zedrik Cayne > you don't even have to leave corp.
Joe Phoenix > but then we would lose
Joe Phoenix > i don't step down, u lose right?
Zedrik Cayne > Well...a competent ceo would not have gotten the ic into the trouble in the first place
Zedrik Cayne > So...it would be a win all around for you to step down.
Joe Phoenix > not at all
Joe Phoenix > this is where your wrong..
Zedrik Cayne > Oh?
Joe Phoenix > we are in this mess because we go againest griefers.. thugs and bullies
Joe Phoenix > can't u see that?
Zedrik Cayne > You are right.
Zedrik Cayne > But, do you know why?
Zedrik Cayne > Because you...personally...could not keep a level head when you first ran into the SSS
Zedrik Cayne > And you drew the wardec
Joe Phoenix > the sss are griefers...
Zedrik Cayne > Then, you proceeded to try and garner support on gal-net...;by lying.
Joe Phoenix > of no importants
Joe Phoenix > by lying! to who?
Zedrik Cayne > Another personal failure on your part.
Joe Phoenix > who did i lie to....
Zedrik Cayne > You posited that you were getting randomly griefed.
Joe Phoenix > we were..
Zedrik Cayne > And you were not.
Joe Phoenix > and are
Joe Phoenix > and have been for months
Zedrik Cayne > no, you drew the wardec on yourself
Joe Phoenix > more to the point
Zedrik Cayne > And have since kept drawing it.
Joe Phoenix > you drew them in
Zedrik Cayne > Personally.
Joe Phoenix > with your posts..
Zedrik Cayne > All I've been posting are your words...verbatim.
Joe Phoenix > not as such zedrik... not as such
Joe Phoenix > look zedrik i want to go and be with my familly..
Joe Phoenix > SO
Zedrik Cayne > G'night.
Joe Phoenix > i prepose a 1 week peace..
Zedrik Cayne > No
Joe Phoenix > and why not?
Zedrik Cayne > Because for the wardecs to get turned off...you would have to step down.
Zedrik Cayne > Or become a better beo.
Zedrik Cayne > er...ceo
Joe Phoenix > then this has been a waste of time don't you think?
Zedrik Cayne > Not at all.
Joe Phoenix > oh im guessing this is your next post?
Zedrik Cayne > More than likely.
Zedrik Cayne > Have anything to say directly to the readers?
Joe Phoenix > well then, i should probably say somthing like i have a 10 inch long cock and fucked your wife last night
Joe Phoenix > or somthing along thouse lines right?
Zedrik Cayne > I am not making you say anything Joe.
Joe Phoenix > no you never do
Joe Phoenix > im sure the forum would love to read this.
Zedrik Cayne > They might...might not, I can never tell.
Joe Phoenix > i don't se much interest in your posts anymore. The wars are drying up, and you won't be able to fight us for much longer..
Zedrik Cayne > At 700 mil profit per week...you should be able to afford yout alliance by now.
Joe Phoenix > its just the skills that are holding us up
Zedrik Cayne > So pull the trigger already instead of begging folks for 200 mil to join your alliance
Zedrik Cayne > 200 mil per corp that is.
Joe Phoenix > what?
Joe Phoenix > all money is coming from the commonwealth
Zedrik Cayne > I don't publish every chatlog I recieve Joe.
Zedrik Cayne > Especially if third parties wish to remain anonymous.
Joe Phoenix > chatlogs are reliable as mud is for a foundation
Zedrik Cayne > Joe...I would be making much money in rl as an author if I could come up with and keep your 'charachter' consistent for months.
Joe Phoenix > its very simple
Joe Phoenix > and very easy to replicate
Joe Phoenix > so is there anything more
Zedrik Cayne > This was on your dime...you called me.
Joe Phoenix > yes, yes it was
Zedrik Cayne > PS: you don't actually need the ceo skills to make an alliance
Joe Phoenix > good day, have a good christmas
Zedrik Cayne > Since its all you are waiting for.
Zedrik Cayne > Merry christmas Joe

Welcome to the Joe Show (tm). Where Joe is making 700 mil per week. Chatlogs are easy to fake. And Joe doesn't clue that most any conversation we have is an episode of the Joe Show (tm)

Joe..still hiring

So it would appear that Joe is still hiring....and really not telling the new guys anything...

EVE System > Channel changed to Inaro Local Channel
AgnorF > ha ha i just got invited so im not sure if im suposed to kill you or what :)
w1lds1n3 > there is similar confusion in my chat. until told otherwise, you're KOS :)
AgnorF > i was "recruited" this morning so im not sure what ive gotten myself into
w1lds1n3 > A lot more than your bargained for, believe me.
w1lds1n3 > You don't want this. Your CEO is a moron who is utterly incapable of leading a corporation. I'd get out before you lose something, unless you're willing to help us get at him...
AgnorF > if ild known i was going to be waylaid outside my front door ild probably not have joined
AgnorF > well he said somehting about paying me to fight but ive seen no money and ships and insurance arent cheap :0
w1lds1n3 > I'm surprised a character as old as you would join such a fail corporation, to be honest with you.
w1lds1n3 > Hahahha... he's made similar promises to a lot of people.
AgnorF > i though he needed help with a mission at first
w1lds1n3 > Take a guess how many actually saw anything that was promised to them.
AgnorF > so fail
AgnorF > ya im an old caracter but ive not played hardly ever i only play when its free
w1lds1n3 > This is a fun game if you can really get into it for a while, and join a good corp.
w1lds1n3 > The Imperial Commonwealth is not a good corp, and Joe is far from a good CEO.
AgnorF > so what does your corp focus on mainly?
w1lds1n3 > Did he even tell you he was at war with 4 other corps?
AgnorF > nope
w1lds1n3 > Mmmhmm, not surprising to any of us.
AgnorF > this was my heads up
AgnorF > :)
w1lds1n3 > My corp mostly focuses on piracy and griefing, but we're making a special exception for this case... we consider this humanitarian aid.
AgnorF > hmm well im no pirate or greifer but i dont fight for free either
AgnorF > bah how the heck to i quit
AgnorF > i just like mission running honestly
w1lds1n3 > Right click your own name, and click leave corporation.
w1lds1n3 > Wait, you must be viewing your own profile first. Right click your ship, click show info, then click your portrait.
w1lds1n3 > Right click the white triangle beside your picture, leave corp should be there.
AgnorF > hmm ok got auto assigned to "the scope"
AgnorF > beginner group so should be right now
w1lds1n3 > Wise choice, friend.
AgnorF > great still agression timer
w1lds1n3 > Oh, you may be interested to know the latest patch added a 11% tax
AgnorF > and i didnt fire a shot
w1lds1n3 > find yourself a new corp soon :)
AgnorF > ya saw that
AgnorF > :(
w1lds1n3 > Don't worry, I won't fire. You've made the right decision, I'll let you pass.
w1lds1n3 > I'll dock up right now.
w1lds1n3 > Fly safe o/
AgnorF > aight catch ya on the flip side
w1lds1n3 > And do your homework next time you join a corp.
AgnorF > :) quitting is easy

The Joe Show (tm) Where quitting is easy

Joe...double cross?

So, Damien decides to have a chat with Joe while camping him in with Paknac...Hilarity ensues.

Damien McCandless > Hiya Joseph :)
Joe Phoenix > help me kill paknac and il reconsider you joining
Damien McCandless > I see you foiund your way out of that wormhole
Damien McCandless > You were very unkind to me yesterday
Damien McCandless > Give me a manitcore and Ill kill Paknac
Joe Phoenix > yes its called a bookmark
Damien McCandless > so how come you died in the wormhole?
Joe Phoenix > i didn't die, i got podded
Damien McCandless > Whats the difference?
Joe Phoenix > implants are the difference
Damien McCandless > So that wasnt your corpse we found in there?
Damien McCandless > ANYWAY
Damien McCandless > this is beside the point
Damien McCandless > which is:  Manticore now and I kill Paknc
Joe Phoenix > i could bring in troops but i know you'd bring in backup aswell
Damien McCandless > And?
Damien McCandless > Whats wrong with a nbice big fleet engagement?
Damien McCandless > I can make it go in your favour for that manticore
Joe Phoenix > you currently outnumber the number of troop i could bring in
Damien McCandless > and we wouldnt if I switched sides mid fight
Damien McCandless > or killed Paknac now
Joe Phoenix > you still would
Damien McCandless > So what do you want?
Damien McCandless > BTW its 3 v 2 in your favour
Joe Phoenix > if i brought in my guys i would have 5 ships
Damien McCandless > 5 v 2 then
Damien McCandless > sounds fun
Joe Phoenix > i count 8 of your guys on
Damien McCandless > Er..hate to break it to you but there isnt 8 people in the whole of IEEE
Damien McCandless > as for others at war with you, I have no idea, we arent a network
Damien McCandless > So what do ytou say?
Joe Phoenix > but pak is with you, is he not
Damien McCandless > yes
Damien McCandless > 34 km from me as I speak
Damien McCandless > Contract me a manticore and he is a dead man
Joe Phoenix > the IEEE are not renowned for trustworthiess
Damien McCandless > to be honest Joe niether are you
Joe Phoenix > yes i am
Damien McCandless > so how come you didnt replace my manticore like you promised when Viceroy Jane destroyed it?
Joe Phoenix > i didn't order the destruction..
Damien McCandless > Its the one reason I dont trust you, Joseph
Damien McCandless > You said you would replcae it tho
Damien McCandless > you did not state the exclusions
Damien McCandless > I lost a ship, so you need to replace it
Joe Phoenix > not really..
Damien McCandless > You do if thats what you said
Damien McCandless > and its what you said
Damien McCandless > so, if you admit your liar, then fine.  If not, you owe mw a ship
Damien McCandless > *me
Joe Phoenix > i didn't lie about anything
Damien McCandless > so where is my replacement for what I lost?
Damien McCandless > the replacement you said you would givve me?
Joe Phoenix > if you lost it doing anything for us
Joe Phoenix > you just lost it because you pissed jane off
Damien McCandless > Uh huh
Damien McCandless > Funny never spoke to her before then
Damien McCandless > And Joe you should have made this clear before hand.  You cant change the limitations on a verbal contract abfter the event
Damien McCandless > so you going to py me a shi p now and I kill Paknac or you just going to sit and spin more tales?
Damien McCandless > *buy me a ship
Joe Phoenix > you shouldn't trust a verbal contract for that exact reason
Damien McCandless > fine then you shouldnt have trusted Jehosh
Damien McCandless > that worked out well lol
Joe Phoenix > stop calling me joseph
Damien McCandless > Why?  Not fopund of Jews?
Damien McCandless > *fond
Damien McCandless > nah I kid cos I carwe
Joe Phoenix > im a 16th jewish actuelly
Damien McCandless > care
Damien McCandless > You remind me of my Uncle Joe
Joe Phoenix > hope you don't treat your uncle like this
Damien McCandless > He's dead now
Damien McCandless > but he was your sort of guy.  Like to demand respect, was good at weaselling out of promises he made
Damien McCandless > So Joe isnt short for Jospeh then?
Joe Phoenix > yes it is
Damien McCandless > cool.  Joseph it is
Joe Phoenix > no thats not my name
Damien McCandless > you can call me Daimo if you like
Damien McCandless > or "Macca".  always liked that for short
Joe Phoenix > technically its short for joseth
Damien McCandless > Seth as in Set?
Damien McCandless > nemesis of Osiris?
Joe Phoenix > yer
Damien McCandless > class
Joe Phoenix > you know how religions follow on from each other
Damien McCandless > I like Anubis the Guardian myself
Joe Phoenix > im sure damien has some roots somwhere
Damien McCandless > probably
Damien McCandless > lot of local folk called that
Joe Phoenix > damien...
Joe Phoenix > sun of the devil..
Damien McCandless > er no actually
Damien McCandless > not unless you base religion on a movie
Joe Phoenix > it doesn't come from the movie
Damien McCandless > ok the book the movie was based on
Damien McCandless > or are you trying to tell me that there is some biblical reference to the beast being named Damien?
Damien McCandless > if that was true, no one would be named it
Joe Phoenix > damien was one of the angels that joined satan
Damien McCandless > do you have notations for that?
Joe Phoenix > i could find it if i could be bothered
Damien McCandless > Id love to look it it up and show the 10,000 catholics in Belfast the reference
Damien McCandless > 10k that are named Damien that is
Damien McCandless > As interesting as this is, is there anything seroious you wanted to discuss?
Joe Phoenix > im in jita if you want that manticore
Damien McCandless > contract it to me and Ill come get it
Joe Phoenix > could do that, but if im honest mate i don't need you to join..
Damien McCandless > Well I could stay in IEEE and provide intelif you prefer
Damien McCandless > though your corpmates dont seem keen on engaging in combat
Joe Phoenix > we fight when we need to
Damien McCandless > [20:30:12] Damien McCandless > Well I could stay in IEEE and provide intelif you prefer
Joe Phoenix > im busy at this moment in time, il get back to you

Welcome to the Joe Show (tm) where you can fail all day to cause a double cross. Discuss the origin of your name and get it woefully...twisted...And claiming that you didn't commit suicide to get out of w-space when the corpse is sitting on contracts right now...

Joe Commits Suicide

Its been a while... But tonight, when I log on, I hear that Joe's going Wormhole diving. Well as I well know..and others will tell you...you just can't tank the rats in a wormhole with a warp core stab on. Just won't happen.

I also know that Joe has managed to hire one of my former corpmates..Jehosh Farrfury. *facepalm* and is taking him on this wormhole expedition. So, I've got an entry system, wormhole name, and nearest celestial object. Time to find a Joe.

Hit the entry system, find me the wormhole entry to find me a Joe. As I hop into the wormhole with my trusty corpy Damien McCandles. My Spy informs me that he's on his way to planet 3..at 0..

Ooops..he dies. My spy has also informed me that Joe has not bookmarked the exit wormhole. So his pod getting away is not much of a problem. The following is out of Joe's corp chat courtesy Jehosh.

Jehosh Farrfury > mwahaha
Joe Phoenix > the fuck!
Joe Phoenix > how much did he pay you?
Jehosh Farrfury > hows that taste
Jehosh Farrfury > nothin
Joe Phoenix > i knew i should have fuckin trusted you
Jehosh Farrfury > look on the bright side i didnt ask for hangar access
Joe Phoenix > no i won't look on the freaking bright side you dickhead...
Jehosh Farrfury > have fun bein stranded in wh space
Jehosh Farrfury > u lose
Joe Phoenix > im afraid not
Joe Phoenix > im afraid i did bookmark the wh..
Jehosh Farrfury > mayb mayb not
Joe Phoenix > so thats why you gave me the missiles back.. funny
Joe Phoenix > mate you are a serious grade a dickhead
Jehosh Farrfury > mmm yummy tears
Joe Phoenix > haha no im just abit disapointed
Jehosh Farrfury > yes i can tell :D
Joe Phoenix > very sad... you know how much loot you fucked up right>
Jehosh Farrfury > i dont care bout loot
Joe Phoenix > could u dock up please?
Jehosh Farrfury > nope
Joe Phoenix > pleaseeeeee
Jehosh Farrfury > y do u want me to dock
Joe Phoenix > just dock up :)
Jehosh Farrfury > but yyyy
Joe Phoenix > oooooooooh no reason
Joe Phoenix > i was about to take you to our station aswell...
Joe Phoenix > tut tut
Jehosh Farrfury > cmon stations show up in corp info theres nothin in there
Joe Phoenix > pos's not stations
Joe Phoenix > stations cost 40 bill upwards
Jehosh Farrfury > i may b wrong but pos means player owned STATION
Joe Phoenix > yes but do not show up in corp info
Jehosh Farrfury > mayb ur right but u told damien they did during the lil drug deal
Joe Phoenix > erm,,, dont think i did..

What follows looks kind of confusing..its Jehosh quoting Damien....

Jehosh Farrfury > Jehosh Farrfury > do pos's show up under corp details?
Damien McCandless > Joe claimed they did
Damien McCandless > when he wanted me to tell him where our drug facts were

And back to regular

Jehosh Farrfury > alrighty i gtg cya around joey

I go afk for a while...and decide to head back into the hole...Hey..there's a Joe Corpse on scan! Turns out he really had not bookmarked the exit, and committed seppuku to get out. Fun! I dig the corpse up...and fly it over to Jita...

Its time to put it up on auction. Buy the corpse, fund the IEEE. (Higher buyout than usual, it has to get split three ways)

You need a social director to make a 1v1?

So Joe 'runs' a station camp at Jita 4-4. (Easy enough to do)

Paknac Queltel > Yes, Joe?
Joe Phoenix > your getting rusty...
Paknac Queltel > How so?
Joe Phoenix > cant follow me...
Joe Phoenix > im at nourvukaiken gate...
Paknac Queltel > Oh, I can. I just won't.
Joe Phoenix > waiting for you to catch me up...
Paknac Queltel > Well, if you're waiting, I'll let you wait
Joe Phoenix > well now thats no fun
Joe Phoenix > you really only fly frigates?
Paknac Queltel > Since when is a Moa a frigate?
Joe Phoenix > i mean you must have been a bait because, well, because
Paknac Queltel > I only switched to this thing when you got that cormy out
Joe Phoenix > OH a moa...
Joe Phoenix > your nearly at a dreadnaught...
Paknac Queltel > Really, now. Size of the ship matters little
Joe Phoenix > oh it does...
Joe Phoenix > your girlfriend may have said otherwise, but size matters
Paknac Queltel > Heh
Paknac Queltel > You know, Joe. You could be a really funny guy, if you weren't such a lame CEO.
Joe Phoenix > come up with a reason why im a lame ceo... then i may just lisson
Paknac Queltel > Lose any members lately?
Joe Phoenix > nope
Joe Phoenix > gained a fue
Paknac Queltel > I heard Aem didn't like what you said in Rens local
Joe Phoenix > aems not left the IC, you can be sure of that...
Paknac Queltel > Why don't you check her info page?
Paknac Queltel > *his
Joe Phoenix > his..
Joe Phoenix > last time i checked.. and i check every day
Paknac Queltel > Yes, check his info page: Aem
Joe Phoenix > we have a 200m daily turn over...
Joe Phoenix > lots of happy members..
Joe Phoenix > and a number of stations..
Paknac Queltel > right, well, where are they, then?
Joe Phoenix > why would i tell you that, not that you would be able to dent there shields
Joe Phoenix > thier*
Paknac Queltel > If I couldn't dent their shield, there's nothing to worry about, is there?
Paknac Queltel > You have no active, members, Joe. You are the head of a dead corporation.
Paknac Queltel > Might as well give it up
Joe Phoenix > ahhhaa yes paknac...
Joe Phoenix > i trust your list over myn..
Paknac Queltel > Correct my list, then
Joe Phoenix > why would i want to do that
Paknac Queltel > Then show me one of these stations of yours
Joe Phoenix > ermmm nope
Paknac Queltel > I'll tell you why you won't
Paknac Queltel > Because they don't exist.
Joe Phoenix > they may be hard to kill but im sure there is a dickhead somwhere in a dreadnaught you could talk into helping...
Joe Phoenix > and there is no reason to.
Joe Phoenix > BUT
Joe Phoenix > if you follow me aronud enough.. you may just find one
Paknac Queltel > Right, back to that
Paknac Queltel > I'll be chasing you on my terms, not yours.
Joe Phoenix > you ever even been in a pos?
Paknac Queltel > I have. You?
Joe Phoenix > no i set it up by magic
Paknac Queltel > You? Set up a POS?
Joe Phoenix > erm yer....
Joe Phoenix > not that hard...
Paknac Queltel > Lovely. And given your standings, in 0.3 and lower.
Paknac Queltel > You did stock it with stront, didn't you?
Joe Phoenix > ofcourse... why do you think im worried about dreadnaughts..
Paknac Queltel > Perhaps because you didn't and are worried they're going to bash it away in one go?
Joe Phoenix > not that
Joe Phoenix > do you know anything about dreads..
Paknac Queltel > So, that POS of yours is your station, then?
Paknac Queltel > Yes, I know about dreads
Joe Phoenix > then youd know that they cant go into high sec... making your question a stupid one
Paknac Queltel > HAHAHAHA!
Paknac Queltel > POSes go into anything up to 0.7
Joe Phoenix > yes but dreads don't.....
Paknac Queltel > Wait, dreads, sorry
Paknac Queltel > So why don't you get standings for a nice highsec POS, then?
Joe Phoenix > you ever tryed to get high sec pos's
Paknac Queltel > There are people who'll help you get one, for a bit of ISK
Joe Phoenix > a bit...
Paknac Queltel > Given that you're in a corp with 21 inactive members, I can see how you'd have difficulty getting your standings up,
Joe Phoenix > 40 active members tuvm
Paknac Queltel > 40 active members, really? Where?
Paknac Queltel > They're not in the Imperial Commonwealth
Joe Phoenix > ofcourse
Joe Phoenix > think iv have them take shit from you guys?
Joe Phoenix > id*
Paknac Queltel > So you prefer they take shit from you?
Joe Phoenix > they don't take shit from me tuvm
Paknac Queltel > I've seen that little excerpt from your corp chat
Joe Phoenix > i dout it
Paknac Queltel > People being ordered about, losing ships because you're sending them through lowsec
Joe Phoenix > at least, real corp chat
Joe Phoenix > OH MY GOD
Joe Phoenix > are you still going on about that guy running into a gate camp!
Joe Phoenix > why are you people so sad
Paknac Queltel > Why did you order your members to go into lowsec without any preparation?
Joe Phoenix > i didn't, he fucked up with his autopilot
Joe Phoenix > ever heard of the bleak lands..
Paknac Queltel > You mean Rancer?
Joe Phoenix > its a cut through between jita and rens that cuts off 11 jumps
Joe Phoenix > but takes you through some low sec sectors
Paknac Queltel > Yes, we've seen you run lowsec
Joe Phoenix > heard you ran into a gate camp, running after me
Joe Phoenix > that tickless me...
Paknac Queltel > Not me. Might've been Zedrik
Joe Phoenix > lost alot of ships as i heard
Joe Phoenix > made my day
Paknac Queltel > That would not be me OR the IEEE
Joe Phoenix > i mean really what idiot runs a fleet blindly through low sec
Paknac Queltel > Well, you run it blindly
Paknac Queltel > What idiot runs through Rancer in an indy?
Joe Phoenix > i run it is an ICS transport ship
Paknac Queltel > Right.
Paknac Queltel > An indy
Paknac Queltel > with warp core stabs
Joe Phoenix > designed to be deal with gate camps and people following
Paknac Queltel > Yeah, that worked well yesterday, didn't it?
Joe Phoenix > wasn't a transport ship
Joe Phoenix > just a regular badger
Paknac Queltel > Ah, day before then
Joe Phoenix > .... not following..
Paknac Queltel > When you lost 2 ships in one day?
Paknac Queltel > Wasn't even to us, your WTs
Joe Phoenix > ermm... no....
Joe Phoenix > but feel free to look it up a fabricate somthing
Paknac Queltel > You lost, on the ninth, a badger and a badger mk. 2.On the tenth, a badger and your pos,Yesterday (the eleventh) a merlin
Paknac Queltel > All in lowsec
Paknac Queltel > battleclinic doesn't lie: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Joe+Phoenix&filter=losses&dateRange=Jan%201,%202003%20to%20Dec%2011,%202009
Joe Phoenix > we lost a pos... i think i would remember that
Paknac Queltel > pod, sorry
Joe Phoenix > and made 300m!
Joe Phoenix > sooo
Paknac Queltel > riiiiight
Paknac Queltel > I'll just take your word for that, shall I? ;)
Joe Phoenix > well its not like im going to lend you the money to see...
Paknac Queltel > Nor was I expecting you to
Paknac Queltel > But if you have that much cash, you could fly a decent combat shi[
Paknac Queltel > *shiP
Joe Phoenix > i do fly a decent combat ship
Joe Phoenix > went im in combat
Paknac Queltel > What, that cormy of yours?
Joe Phoenix > its called a shuttlecraft for a reason...
Paknac Queltel > The USS Runaway?
Paknac Queltel > If you have a decent combat ship, I'd like to see you take it outside
Paknac Queltel > I'm right at the undock, just come out
Paknac Queltel > Well? Where is it?
Joe Phoenix > thats a nice try however the second i come out and blow the fuck out of you, the other 3 waiting in the surrounding system will come after me
Paknac Queltel > Really? Yo question my honour?
Paknac Queltel > *You
Joe Phoenix > yes
Paknac Queltel > I'm insulted
Paknac Queltel > Thing is, there are no 3 others. If you and I agree to a 1v1, then it's a 1v1
Joe Phoenix > zedrik cayne is even in the same system
Paknac Queltel > Zed's AFK
Joe Phoenix > danks in in the surrounding system
Paknac Queltel > Dank seems the honourable sort
Paknac Queltel > Or Danks, it is? I forgot
Joe Phoenix > danks
Paknac Queltel > Go on, open a chat with him, or pull him in here, and ask him if he'd honour a 1v1 of you and me
Paknac Queltel > I'm sure he would
Joe Phoenix > im not worried about danks
Joe Phoenix > im worried about zedrik, he's scum
Paknac Queltel > Well, I'm not worried about Zedrik.
Paknac Queltel > Zed's AFK, AND would honour a 1v1
Joe Phoenix > he hasn't in the past
Paknac Queltel > Well, choose an out-of-the-way system and meet me there, then
Paknac Queltel > In fact, if you need time to prepare, that's fine. Give me both a place and a date+time then
Joe Phoenix > ok then
Paknac Queltel > Ok, where and when?
Paknac Queltel > 'Lo? You still there?
Joe Phoenix > not really
Paknac Queltel > Ok, well just give me a place and a date
Paknac Queltel > What's wrong? Don't want to 1v1?
Joe Phoenix > im very busy paknac il get back to yoyu
Paknac Queltel > Okay, just send me a mail to organize it
Joe Phoenix > ok

The Joe Show..where he's got 200 mil turnover every day, lots of active members (who never log on). And apparently needs an organizer to make a 1v1 appointment.

New Joe Show....1v1? Really?

So, I hop on, and one of the other guys says 'Joe has undocked in a drake'...spiffy..so I undock in a geddon and start to spank him hard. At which the tackle blows up..and I don't have enough points on to hold him (only have a long one, so he's wearing at least one stab)

The following conversation happens just after.

Paknac Queltel > Ohai!
Joe Phoenix > i told you zedrik wouldn't honor a 1v1...
Paknac Queltel > This wasn't a 1v1, kid
Joe Phoenix > kid.. your the one who just got publicly arse rapped
Paknac Queltel > A 1v1 is pre-arranged. This was a normal war kill. Kudos, it's probably your first
Joe Phoenix > haha no im afraid not
Joe Phoenix > you should work on your shields btw..
Paknac Queltel > I wasn't tanked
Joe Phoenix > my scans say otherwise
Paknac Queltel > That ship was meant purely to capture those cormies and indies you kept throwing out. Did a good job at that too
Paknac Queltel > You scans, ey? Check your killmail again
Joe Phoenix > not really...
Paknac Queltel > Well, it did keep your cormy in
Joe Phoenix > won't have come through yet
Joe Phoenix > could break the tank though... on a cormy... caught in traffic...
Paknac Queltel > Yes, dock-tank strikes again
Joe Phoenix > no just the normal tank...
Joe Phoenix > on a transport cormy...
Paknac Queltel > You weren't exactly sticking around long enough to find out
Joe Phoenix > if you cant get it to 80% you wont get it past 30%
Paknac Queltel > Seriously, kid? You weren't out long enough to test that tank
Joe Phoenix > haha right
Joe Phoenix > and my drake.. i presume you weren't alive long enough to find out...
Joe Phoenix > you should be thanking me, i didn't take your pod

(I will note, that at the point where Joe blew up the tackle and warped out, the 'tank' on his drake was below the breaking point)

Paknac Queltel > Your drake, yeah. Well, I did congratulate you on your first kill.
Paknac Queltel > Hah!
Paknac Queltel > If you feel like podding me, go right ahead
Joe Phoenix > no im a nice guy paknac..
Paknac Queltel > Well, I'm not. Give me a chance, and your pod is mine.
Paknac Queltel > Also, Zedrik would've had you in structure before you had a lock on my pod
Paknac Queltel > Anyway, when did you want to do the 1v1?
Joe Phoenix > you want a 1v1 after the pasting i just gave you
Paknac Queltel > Oh yes
Paknac Queltel > Though not right now, I'm heading out soon
Paknac Queltel > Tomorrow good for you?
Paknac Queltel > Well, today, technically....
Joe Phoenix > an honorable 1v1
Joe Phoenix > ?
Paknac Queltel > An actual 1v1
Joe Phoenix > what makes you think you could possibly hurt me..
Paknac Queltel > Jita planet 3, 6 PM server time?
Paknac Queltel > Oh, I know I can
Paknac Queltel > An untanked scramming cruiser isn't an impressive kill, Joe. People can see that I wasn't tanked at all on the killmail.
Paknac Queltel > So if you're sure you can beat me, let's get it on
Joe Phoenix > not for a 2 month old account
Joe Phoenix > especielly somone with your shitty tech 1 equipement
Paknac Queltel > Look, I was talking about your kill
Paknac Queltel > Me? I'd be happy for every kill that I get. But I'd expect this kill isn't something YOU are truly happy with.
Paknac Queltel > You want a real kill on me, don't you?
Paknac Queltel > Honourable 1v1, in ships made to fight each other, not to keep another in station.
Paknac Queltel > Well, what say you? Battle at Jita 3, 6 PM server time 12-12-2009?
Joe Phoenix > what u bringing?
Paknac Queltel > A ship that wasn't made to be a cheap loss if you happened to undock a Drake
Paknac Queltel > In short: agree and you'll find out
Joe Phoenix > well i highly dout its a battleship...
Paknac Queltel > I could bring a battleship
Paknac Queltel > However, the fit, if it were ever publicized, would get me laughed out of anywhere
Paknac Queltel > Then again, I might have a wicked battleship fit. How do you know?
Joe Phoenix > your 2 months old.. thats how i know
Paknac Queltel > Heh, it takes 2 weeks to get into a battleship
Paknac Queltel > But if you want to prearrange ship types, let's go with battlecruisers
Joe Phoenix > but months to fly it well
Paknac Queltel > True, true.
Paknac Queltel > So, let's amend that, then: Jita 3, 6 PM, 12-12-2009, 1v1 in battlecruisers. Agreed?
Joe Phoenix > cant promise il be on
Paknac Queltel > When can you be on, then?
Joe Phoenix > i have no idea, im busy
Paknac Queltel > And yet, you manage to be on often enough
Paknac Queltel > Oh, if you'd rather not 1v1 with me, W1ckd Munch would also like a chance.
Paknac Queltel > He's offering cruisers or frigates, your choice
Joe Phoenix > paknac im managing a 500m isk deal here, i do NOT have time for you
Joe Phoenix > but your welcome to run around after me
Paknac Queltel > lol, right
Paknac Queltel > Where's your honour?
Joe Phoenix > apparent
Paknac Queltel > You agree to a 1v1, but won't agree where and when. Stand and fight like a man
Joe Phoenix > i did, you lost remember...
Paknac Queltel > I ask you, was that a 1v1?
Joe Phoenix > where is wickd iv got a taste for noob blood
Joe Phoenix > it was until zedrik got involved
Paknac Queltel > A 1v1 is prearranged
Paknac Queltel > What you did was break out of a camp, that's not a 1v1
Joe Phoenix > you want a 1v1 now..
Paknac Queltel > I want a 1v1 at Jita 3, 6 PM 12-12-2009, or any time after that suits you
Joe Phoenix > oh not befor
Paknac Queltel > Before? How about 2 PM server time, then?
Joe Phoenix > i won't be up
Paknac Queltel > Well, give me a time, then
Joe Phoenix > now
Paknac Queltel > Any time but now
Paknac Queltel > I leave in 10 minutes
Joe Phoenix > 10mins is long enough to beat the crap out of you
Paknac Queltel > Yes? lovely.
Paknac Queltel > I still leave in 10 minutes, and I'm not going to buy and set up a ship in that time
Joe Phoenix > rightt
Paknac Queltel > 9 minutes, now
Joe Phoenix > 500m isk deal.... busy
Paknac Queltel > sure, Joe
Paknac Queltel > Coward
Paknac Queltel > Oh, I'm sure Wick is willing to fight you now
Paknac Queltel > I'll be wanting a time from you, Joe. Soon. Goodbye.

Welcome to the Joe Show..where Joe's definition of a 1v1 is 'We talked about it'.

Joe Show...Joe tries to recruit Damien...again.

This is a conversation between Joe and Damien McCandless. You might remember Damien as one of the principles in the whole Drug Episode.

So, Damien gets an out of the blue convo from Joe.

Damien McCandless > Evening.  How can I help you?
Damien McCandless > Hello?
Damien McCandless >   are you ok?
Joe Phoenix > hi damien
Joe Phoenix > was going to ask if you had considered my offer.
Damien McCandless > which offer is that?
Damien McCandless > well?
Joe Phoenix > about you guys joining the commonwealth.
Joe Phoenix > you seem like an alright guy and i really cant see you as being part of this gang of dickheads.
Damien McCandless > Joe seriously at the moment we have no reason to believe you that it would be a good idea.  I mean, I havent been givven the Manticore you promised.  How do we even know we wouldnt get ganged by your alt-corp as soon as we were in?
Joe Phoenix > why would we gang you...
Joe Phoenix > and if you joined up i would be happy to give you your manti
Joe Phoenix > but i cant give my enemies ships..
Damien McCandless > ah Joe but trust is hard to buy.  This time Id need to see the godds up front or no deal at all Im afraid
Joe Phoenix > so i buy you a manti and you guys join the IC
Damien McCandless > You replace the manti I lost that last time I was with you and then I know you can be trusted
Damien McCandless > I cant spak for the others
Damien McCandless > Oh yeah watchout for the Rancer Gate Camp btw Joe
Joe Phoenix > im guessing you guys ran into that?
Damien McCandless > we ran around it
Joe Phoenix > you all seem very interested in me.
Damien McCandless > why wouldnt we be?
Joe Phoenix > haven't you got better things to do..
Damien McCandless > well my alt does yes ^^
Damien McCandless > but you owe me a manticore or satisfaction
Joe Phoenix > how long is zedrik going to keep this stupid thing up for?
Damien McCandless > Pretty much till he gets what he wants
Joe Phoenix > and what he wants.....
Damien McCandless > you know what he wants
Damien McCandless > your resignation as CEO
Damien McCandless > its what he has always wanted
Joe Phoenix > yer well he can go and fuck himself
Joe Phoenix > it doesn't matter how many times he calls me "the worst CEO in eve" or whatever
Joe Phoenix > its pathetic
Joe Phoenix > it really is..
Damien McCandless > Hey I dont really care, Im just in it for my Manticore these days
Joe Phoenix > you wont get that until the war is over
Damien McCandless > I wont leave the war till I get it
Damien McCandless > but as I said, Ill take satisfaction as a proxy
Joe Phoenix > you won't get it until you leave the war
Damien McCandless > satisfaction?  I can only get that in war Joe, by destroying killing and/or looting.  And I trust my ability to get that in war more than I trust you giving me a manticore if I make peace, Im afraid
Joe Phoenix > well then youv spent to much time around people like zedrik
Damien McCandless > Really?  What sort of folk should I consort with?
Damien McCandless > But this isnt about me, its about you
Damien McCandless > Is this, the war, more annoying to you than if you quit as CEO?
Joe Phoenix > im not quiting as ceo
Joe Phoenix > not now, not ever
Damien McCandless > then the war will go on, as far as Zedrik is concerned
Damien McCandless > at least thats what he says
Joe Phoenix > soon he won't be able to...
Damien McCandless > why is that?
Joe Phoenix > it fairly simple really
Damien McCandless > Go on...
Joe Phoenix > you will know soon enough
Joe Phoenix > i don't think zedrik could afford 250m a week..
Damien McCandless > so another allice then?
Joe Phoenix > allice....
Joe Phoenix > yes
Joe Phoenix > anyway
Damien McCandless > I hear your making your own one
Joe Phoenix > oh, you may have heard correct
Damien McCandless > Mordred will be happy with that
Joe Phoenix > mordred?
Damien McCandless > yeah.  he joined for MK wartargets.  He would be happy to have more
Joe Phoenix > no no you don't understand
Damien McCandless > Im all ears go ahead
Joe Phoenix > damien im trying to decide if im going to block you or not
Damien McCandless > um ok.... well you should go with what your concience tells you
Joe Phoenix > tell me why i shouldn't have my entire corp block all members of the IEEE
Damien McCandless > because then you will never convince us of why we should follow Zed
Joe Phoenix > should...
Damien McCandless > shoudnt*
Damien McCandless > typo, sorry
Joe Phoenix > see i make a typo you have a go at me on the forum
Damien McCandless > I do?
Damien McCandless > The only thing I have a go about is my lack of fitted manticore
Joe Phoenix > the IEEE
Damien McCandless > well Im not the boss of them like
Joe Phoenix > your corp is messed up mate
Damien McCandless > IN what manner?
Joe Phoenix > you live to course people pain...
Damien McCandless > thats not true, well mostly not true
Joe Phoenix > oh....
Damien McCandless > What do you live for Joe?
Joe Phoenix > you do good things?
Damien McCandless > Whats your dreams?
Damien McCandless > In game I mean
Joe Phoenix > in and out of game i live to make a better world...
Joe Phoenix > have you ever been to a third world country befor...
Damien McCandless > yeah, but as I live in Belfast I wasnt that impressed
Joe Phoenix > you ever REALLY been to a third world country...
Joe Phoenix > iv seen stuff you wouldn't believe...
Joe Phoenix > stuff that would really change your life...
Damien McCandless > Hey now I may not have been in downtown Mogadishu but I do know that there is some really messed up stuff in the world
Joe Phoenix > you know i saved a person from malaria in gambia... guess how much it cost me?
Damien McCandless > 15p for a mosquito net?
Joe Phoenix > £2.50
Damien McCandless > I knew it was something like that
Joe Phoenix > £2.50 and i saved a boys life...
Damien McCandless > but then I do have an issue in a way with that
Joe Phoenix > now i come back, and there is zedrik cayne trying to make my life worse.....
Joe Phoenix > its un believable...
Damien McCandless > ok I think you have this back to front really
Damien McCandless > because just like you are treatingthe symptoms of a serious issue in real life and not the cause, you are doing the same in EVE
Joe Phoenix > i don't see how giving in the zedrik will cure the underlying hatred that is in eve...
Damien McCandless > Why is what Zedrik thinks more important to you than your own enjoyment?
Damien McCandless > and what makes you think that you can stop people hurting each other in this game?
Joe Phoenix > i don't give a fuck what zedrik cayne things
Damien McCandless > then just do it
Joe Phoenix > i care about the hatred he has
Damien McCandless > well how do you think uyou can cure that?
Damien McCandless > and why do you think he hates you?
Joe Phoenix > he hates the fact that i won't give in to him
Damien McCandless > Admittedly insulting his family probably didnt help that, you do understand that dont you?
Joe Phoenix > yes well he wasn't being a bunch of rosses to me either
Joe Phoenix > or my corp mates
Damien McCandless > yes but you really did cross a line and turn a lot of people against you and by extention to his side.  Lets face it, he hadnt made it personal, and you made very insulting comments about his personal life
Damien McCandless > a lot of people think you did cross the line, no matter what either of you think
Joe Phoenix > oh he made it very personal
Damien McCandless > and if you dont care what people think, you will never win hearts and minds and make eve a "better place"

It is at this point...where Joe jumps into (I beleive Jita) and gets his Badger shot out from under him, releasing 300k heavy missles into the aether.

Damien McCandless > where I live the fighting didnt stop because people fought or argued, it stopped because both sides realised that giving a bit of ground to the other would work
Damien McCandless > basically if you do give a little, perhaps the IEEE can be convinced to get off your back
Joe Phoenix > resigning from the CEO is not a "little ground"
Damien McCandless > Is this just about the name ?
Damien McCandless > you could change to an alt with an alt corp and no one would know
Joe Phoenix > no its to do with the principle..
Damien McCandless > You would suffer this much over a principle?
Joe Phoenix > yes
Joe Phoenix > iv gtg, il see you later
Damien McCandless > we should talk more later

Joe Show...Rens Local Edition.

So, Joe is charging up and down the trade routes...and hits Rens. Where one of the local denizens was all too happy to send me the local smack..its local, so its edited for length.

Sikoras > i mean why didnt joe warp?
Sikoras > doesnt he have all his lows full fo WCS's?
Monty Don > (it's NOT BAIT)
Paknac Queltel > I have 2 scrams
Sikoras > very nice
Paknac Queltel > So Joe can't warp
Sikoras > joe sucks
Monty Don > bak bak derka
Jafdet > Бах Бах и Дырка :)
Monty Don > i bet you cant tank my stiletto
Sikoras > yeh
Paknac Queltel > But then, I don't need to
Monty Don > shut up failboy
Joe Phoenix > stupid drake...
Paknac Queltel > Heh, I'll have to set that as my title
Sikoras > JOE SUCKS
Joe Phoenix > yer your mums fanny
Monty Don > YES! good smack!
Sikoras > OH NO YOU DIDNT
Joe Phoenix > yer i did...
Seraphim Risen > NO U
Joe Phoenix > what you gonna go about it wank stain...
Sikoras > I KNOW YOU FAIL AS A CEO AND ALL
Desmotes > awww, now I have to repair my armor again...
Sikoras > BUT I DIDNT KNOW YOU FAILED AS A PERSON
Sikoras > JUST GO DIE IN A HOLE
Joe Phoenix > haha what a failure
Minmatar Citizen 125632 > die in a hole? really?
Sikoras > ingame ofc
Monty Don > a man died whilst i was in his hole recently
Minmatar Citizen 125632 > i just died in your arms tonite
Joe Phoenix > and last time i checked... by corp was fucking great
Monty Don > i'm mr barrymore
Sikoras > LOLWAT
Aelisha > hows your pool?
Sikoras > YOU ARE DIEING LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE
Sikoras > OH WAIT NOW
Sikoras > NO*
Joe Phoenix > and i check every day..
Sikoras > YOU'RE CORP MATES DIE EVERY DAY WHILST YOU STAY DOCKED UP
Monty Don > pool is goo, poo also good
Paknac Queltel > He has no corp mates, really
Sikoras > YOU EVER GONNA HELP YOU'RE CORP MATES?
Monty Don > YOUR!
Sikoras > THEY ALL ALTS?
Joe Phoenix > ermm nopesorry
Monty Don > DONT MAKE ME SHOOT YOU SIK YOU USELESS BASTARD
Joe Phoenix > complete bollucks
Sikoras > FUCK YOU MONTY FUCKING DON
Paknac Queltel > All active corpmates were convinced to leave by the IEEE
Sikoras > JOE SUCKS BOLLOX
Joe Phoenix > no fuck you sikoras
Sikoras > FUCK YOU
Seraphim Risen > No
Seraphim Risen > Fuck your couch.
Sikoras > WANKSTAIN
Seraphim Risen > \o/
Joe Phoenix > paknac thats not true don't lie
Tyrone Chodak > FUck you both - i've peitioned you both!
Sikoras > now im sad
Monty Don > OH NO!
Paknac Queltel > I have a list, Joe, of almost all your members
Sikoras > i thought you loved me Tyrone
Seraphim Risen > /emote petitions Tyrone
Paknac Queltel > Nobody online but you
Tyrone Chodak > Well I do
Joe Phoenix > i have a list of the members in the safe corp....
Monty Don > everyone petition everyone else here for "being in rens"
Tyrone Chodak > Just petitioned the failcascade of Joe :)
Paknac Queltel > Safe corp, says you?
Sikoras > Joe did they leave corp and join an alt corp?
Sikoras > if they did that is petitionable
Monty Don > yeah exploit
Sikoras > and banzoring
Seraphim Risen > Waytofail
Seraphim Risen > Letting out intel by mistake :(
Monty Don > we made people banned through that yesyes
Greasy Sales > it's not actually
Joe Phoenix > lol go ahead siko
Tyrone Chodak > /emote hastens over to the petitionmobile
Paknac Queltel > We'll just have to find that corp, and dec it too.
Monty Don > good call
Seraphim Risen > That'd be why.
Monty Don > check out ice fire warriors
Monty Don > they fail pretty hard
Paknac Queltel > Most your ex-corpes ran to about 2 or 3 corps anyway, that's not too many to investigate
Joe Phoenix > haha paknac the IEEE is terrible
Monty Don > kill them with us
Sikoras > lol jo
Sikoras > joe*
Sikoras > how many WCS's do you fit to your combat ships?
Joe Phoenix > LOL SIKORAS!!!
Sikoras > isn't it all the lows?
Paknac Queltel > I'll keep an eye on them, Don.
Nijh > im so scared mah little harbinger friend
Monty Don > good good
Tyrone Chodak > and the highs too, I sold him some magic dust
Joe Phoenix > ermm not in a COMBAT SHIP you retard
Greasy Sales > targetting is overrated
Sikoras > so that drake
Sikoras > and rokh
Tyrone Chodak > what about a "run away" ship?
Sikoras > and all those other ships?
Sikoras > wait what
Seraphim Risen > /emote makes whoosh sounds
Joe Phoenix > command ships need WCS
Sikoras > joes run away ship isnt his combat ship?
Seraphim Risen > lolno
Sikoras > holy shit
Joe Phoenix > or would you have all the fleet links lost?
Seraphim Risen > They don't.
Tyrone Chodak > vOv
Seraphim Risen > They need damage mods.
Sikoras > you learn something new everyday
Joe Phoenix > really youv got to be fucking stupid
Seraphim Risen > Especially NIghthawks. Full rack of ballistic controls.
Sikoras > Joe you should never have to fit a WCS
Tyrone Chodak > I got all of this from the customer satisafaction survey someone had left behind at Joe's (ingame) mum's house
Sikoras > EVER
Tyrone Chodak > so I don't know
Seraphim Risen > Nighthawk can get around 600 DPS if fit right.
Seraphim Risen > Plus move over 1k/s
Sikoras > because only fail pilots need WCS's
Tyrone Chodak > But what about 600EM DPS per second
Seraphim Risen > And tstill have a buffer.
Joe Phoenix > spoken by a guy who knows fuck all about anything
Tyrone Chodak > on secret combat patrol?
Sikoras > Joe you are retarded
Joe Phoenix > OOOOOOOOOOO
Joe Phoenix > good come back
Joe Phoenix > what a joke...
Joe Phoenix > i get really pissed off that most people are idiots like you....
Tyrone Chodak > he'd love to, but your lame legs are blocking the exit
Seraphim Risen > Some command ships do better with tank
Joe Phoenix > really annoying
Paknac Queltel > I think that was a statement of fact, Joe, not a comeback
Seraphim Risen > Some are better fit with damage mods.
Sikoras > true true paknac
Joe Phoenix > paknac i know zedrik cayne pays you to try and annoy me..
Joe Phoenix > but it won't work
Paknac Queltel > Oh, I wish
Monty Don > look at those poor bantams
Paknac Queltel > Zedrik doesn't pay me at all
Joe Phoenix > or your just annoying by nature
Paknac Queltel > That, I am
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Sikoras > go away joe
Alec Freeman > stop spam
Sikoras > only if i can be with you tonight :)
Joe Phoenix > oh why didn't i block that boy befor
Seraphim Risen > /emote can honestly say the only thing he's ever lost with WCS was a single badger, never fit one to a combat ship
Joe Phoenix > exactly
Joe Phoenix > thank you risen
Seraphim Risen > Ruins the lock range and time.
Joe Phoenix > see you would think that people would just work that out
Joe Phoenix > but they are stupid enough to believe zedrik
Seraphim Risen > And in most cases, once you've been tackeld, its too many points for a WCS anyway
Paknac Queltel > Yet your Merlin was stabbed to hell, leaving Jita earlier today
Seraphim Risen > Though I have to admit I kidna wanna lose a stabbed ship with 8 lows with WCS
Joe Phoenix > its a shuttle paknac...
Damien McCandless > Howdy Joe ^^
Paknac Queltel > You were in a Merlin earlier, Joe.
Joe Phoenix > thats why its called ICS shuttlecraft
Paknac Queltel > A Merlin is not a shuttle
Joe Phoenix > hi damien
Equinox1127 > hi damien
Alec Freeman > eheheheh its funny sitting outside watching all the frigates get owned
Seraphim Risen > GET THE POD
DJDie > owned? just bunch if idiots trying to make themselves look cool by killing guys who never had a chance..
Equinox1127 > .... owned
Alec Freeman > yea but... they took the cargo they deserved it
DJDie > no they didnt :) its not like you NEED that cargo :)
DJDie > otherwise you wouldnt bait with it
Alec Freeman > well... there stupid enough to take the bait 0.o
DJDie > most of them has no idea how that works...
Alec Freeman > its the best way to learn
DJDie > its best way to make them leave game
Blister Run > how ?
Alec Freeman > lol its how i learnt... after a few hours of playing :D
Alec Freeman > the "THIS IS STEALING" popup is a bit of a deterant
Minmatar Citizen 125632 > if they leave the game over that then they were carebears and deserve to go play WoW or SWG
Joe Phoenix > ergh i hate scankers...
Paknac Queltel > Running again, Joe?
DJDie > im carebear too so what?
DJDie > i dont like PVP much
Joe Phoenix > no im going to take you on in my badger....
DJDie > only when im in mood
Sharby Necrotis > all in eve is pvp
Puss Nectar > drug m
Paknac Queltel > Well, you're free to buy a Drake, or something
Sharby Necrotis > even the market
Damien McCandless > Well you cant even take us on in a merlin, so you might as well
Sharby Necrotis > and the roidfields
DJDie > no its not :)
Joe Phoenix > oh am i paknac...
DJDie > i prefer to work with people not kill them
Sharby Necrotis > and the missions...
Paknac Queltel > You're buying a Drake?
Paranoik Sam > Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
DJDie > yeah missions are PVP as hell :)
Sharby Necrotis > I like working with ppl too
Joe Phoenix > thank you for giving me permission...
salutlesfoker > lol jengo tempest poupapapa
Paknac Queltel > If you want to take it like that, you're welcome
Joe Phoenix > IEEE...
Joe Phoenix > shame aem isn't on...
Paknac Queltel > Yes, shame.
Sharby Necrotis > who's aem?
Damien McCandless > why does he want to lose a ship too?
Sikoras > Vez you gonna undock
Sikoras > im bored
Joe Phoenix > captain aem...
Sikoras > is an idiot
Joe Phoenix > you wouldn't lose a ship to aems squadren
Paknac Queltel > His squadrEn?
Damien McCandless > I know I wouldnt lol
Sikoras > nope i wouldnt
Paknac Queltel > His squadron of what?
Sikoras > HAI DAMIEN
Joe Phoenix > that didn't come out right...
Damien McCandless > Hai Sikoras
Sikoras > I LUV YOU
Joe Phoenix > flying cows...
Damien McCandless > *grins* thank you ^^
Paknac Queltel > No, you're absolutely right. I wouldn't lose a ship to anyone's flying cows
Jengo Phatt > only engage smaller ships, eh
Jengo Phatt > get yourself a bs you silly french ppl
Joe Phoenix > sorry i cant hear siko, he's a twat
Sikoras > joe is a bad man :(
salutlesfoker > lol
Sikoras > he maeks ppl sad
Vezarus > rofl
Sikoras > VAZARUS
Sikoras > UNDOCK AND MAEKED PEW PEEW
Paknac Queltel > Joe, really, are you going to ignore everyone who annoys you?
Vezarus > i am undock :) check your scan
Joe Phoenix > YES
Damien McCandless > Cos theres a lot of IEEE you would have to ignore
Sikoras > come back to station
Paknac Queltel > Am I going to go the same route? Will I be alone and unloved on undock ramps as well?
Joe Phoenix > its a very good way to deal with them
Paknac Queltel > Not really. You made Siko sad.
Joe Phoenix > you only annoy me somtimes..
Paknac Queltel > Only sometimes? Guess I do fail then :(
salutlesfoker > nooob spammm dock jengo
Vezarus > lol
Jengo Phatt > lololololol
Jengo Phatt > SRS BSNS
Joe Phoenix > are you not allowed to scam anymore?
Paknac Queltel > Who're you talking to?
Joe Phoenix > anyone...
buzzin0k > sure u can scam, infact send me 100mil and i'll tell u how
Damien McCandless > you arent
Taylor Brush > anyone looking for a corp to join and have freedom to do anything covo me
Blister Run > ^^  lame advert
Paknac Queltel > C'mon Joe, a little closer. I can't burn this MWD for 145 km
Jaxxon Voers > i want to pound you in the ass with a tire iron, can i do that in your corp?
Blister Run > lol
Joe Phoenix > fucking missiles..
Sikoras > HAHA
Sharby Necrotis > nice one
DTK FL > Orca Blueprint ORIGINAL BLUEPRINT - Material Level: 2
Mama Ganz > Mama Ganz's Impairor
Jengo Phatt > I have now again aggro to your whole loser corp of french escargots
Jengo Phatt > so come and get me
Vezarus > let me laugh ^^
Joe Phoenix > my corp mates want me to block all of the IEEE members...
Alec Freeman > HRMMMMM "Not Bait" that must be ok to take then
Paknac Queltel > Do they? Why?
Sikoras > yeh totally
Damien McCandless > are they in charge or you Joe?
Alec Freeman > lal
Joe Phoenix > because your annoying for the most part
Damien McCandless > didnt realise IC was a communist state
Joe Phoenix > i am
Alec Freeman > bah it kabloded
Paknac Queltel > Well, don't block the IEEE because I'm annoying. That'd be mean towards them
Jaxxon Voers > he is the GRAND COMMANDER, he can do anything he wants
Jengo Phatt > the IEEE is awesome
Damien McCandless > you cgonna let them dictate to you?
Jaxxon Voers > zed likes boys
Equinox1127 > what is the IEEE?
Sikoras > and didnt joe steal that cap fleet?
Damien McCandless > just like Zedrik?
Joe Phoenix > its the bigggest twat corp out there
Jaxxon Voers > ah, irony...i get it
Damien McCandless > awesome we are the biggest ^^
Joe Phoenix > anyway
Danks > that's a quote i'd put in my bio if it was said about me
Damien McCandless > well you know it wont stop anything Joe
Paknac Queltel > Anyway, and... he's gone. Typical
Damien McCandless > blocking Zed hasnt stopped us coming after you

Welcome to the Rens local episode...Special appearance by the IEEE.

Joe Isms...gotta love it.

No new Joe Show today. But one of my corpmates has come up with a pretty comprehensive list of Joe Isms.

Hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

The Joe Show..Highlight reel from last night

Okay, so the last post was...way f'ing long...so here are the edited highlights..everything's out of context...you want context..go to the previous post.

Joe Phoenix > GUYS!!! you where just to slow....
Damien McCandless > You think your getting out alive?
Joe Phoenix > yer... i do
Damien McCandless > think on
Joe Phoenix > still thinking...
Joe Phoenix > nope... i think im ok

Paknac Queltel > I'd love to get me one of your corpses, though. I hear they sell pretty good
Damien McCandless > They sure do ^^
Joe Phoenix > yes they do...
Damien McCandless > or grind them down to make boosters giving you +1 WCS
Damien McCandless > well Joes go for 250 mill last check
Paknac Queltel > We'll do a more recent check when we have one
Joe Phoenix > it aparently adds +3 inches to your dick...
Damien McCandless > Well eating a corpse with WAS just a big cock would


Dracoknight > Cancer is better than taking suicide over your horrible spelling and grammar Joe

Joe Phoenix > i think i should write an autobiography...
Paknac Queltel > Diary of a failing CEO?
Dracoknight > Joe Phoenix - "The art of Fail"
Paknac Queltel > "How to lose respect of an entire universe in 10 easy steps"?

Dracoknight > Too bad you went into that Roleplaying forum to state that you ignore IEEE joe
Joe Phoenix > yes
Damien McCandless > Wheres my replacement ship Joe

Joe Phoenix > ough zedrik has turned up
Dracoknight > perhaps you should give him a piece of your mind?
Damien McCandless > See?
Dracoknight > if you have any thats it
Damien McCandless > I told you he was following us ^^
Joe Phoenix > im arfraid communications now have to stop, since zedrik has turned up
Joe Phoenix > its a shame, i was enjoying talking to you.

Riesia > wow its joe pheonix, can I have your autograph? Your famous for all the wrong reasons!
failpirate > i think i recognize the name 'phoenix joe' from the forums
Damien McCandless > you should ^^
Daalkmar > Phoenix Joe = Leeroy Jenkins ?

Joe Phoenix > wow your all here to talk to me!
Joe Phoenix > awhh
Joe Phoenix > thats sweet guys

Paknac Queltel > We just want to spread the Joe-love ^.^

Maistro > Joe kindly donated them to our cause moments before his ship flickered out of existance. The can even had a ribbon on it.

Joe Phoenix > this was because i called zedriks wife fat isn't it...

Paknac Queltel > We've forgotten about your puny manti, Damien.
Paknac Queltel > we've moved on to Draco's goldfish

Joe Phoenix > fear not little shivering nit... i have not gone anywhere...
Goedfout > are you actually still in rens?

Maistro > http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc97/maistrooismi/IEEEsmall2-1.jpg

Damien McCandless > you hate Katie Price dontcha Joe?
Joe Phoenix > i have no opinion either way
Damien McCandless > You did say you would have to have a mental age of 5 to enjoy her auto bio
Damien McCandless > which is quite unkind
Joe Phoenix > well yer you would...
Damien McCandless > and you said the same about the Sun
Joe Phoenix > you even know who katie price is...
Damien McCandless > so my theory is this
Damien McCandless > How could I not know who she is?
Damien McCandless > either your Peter Andre, or you are Gordon Brown
Damien McCandless > hang on, where do you think IM from, Joe?
Goedfout > my vote's on gordon brown
Joe Phoenix > what would gordon brown have to do with it
Damien McCandless > he hates the Sun
Joe Phoenix > he hates alot of things..
Joe Phoenix > the english
Damien McCandless > plus your not tip top on economics
Joe Phoenix > the welshdiets...
Damien McCandless > um Gordon Borwn isnt english
Joe Phoenix > yes
Damien McCandless > oh I see
Joe Phoenix > hes scotish...
Dracoknight > well, he hates them anyway
Damien McCandless > yes indeed ^^
Damien McCandless > but yes, why wouldnt I know who Katie Price is?
Joe Phoenix > and i did study economics...
Damien McCandless > (so did Gordon Brown)
Joe Phoenix > haha oh my god, now the entire eve community is going to think im gordon brown
Damien McCandless > Exactly what Gordon Brown would say if he was trying to hide
Maistro > dun dun dun!
Joe Phoenix > to start off im vegitarian...
Damien McCandless > And he is a Presbyterian
Damien McCandless > coincidence?  I think not
Joe Phoenix > and i dout there is a vegitarian scot in existance lol
Damien McCandless > hmm
Damien McCandless > but of course, youd say that too
Dracoknight > MEAT is the way to victory!
Joe Phoenix > its a well known fact that im a vegitarian
Damien McCandless > and you were away on a trip the EXACT SAME TIME that Gordon Brown was out of the country
Paknac Queltel > Too many coincidences. I like this theory
Damien McCandless > and the IC has the same hard-to-understand mission statement as current Goverment policies
Joe Phoenix > shut up or il get trident on your arse!

Damien McCandless > You really do trade like Gordon Brown ol
Damien McCandless > *lol
Joe Phoenix > 19 jumps, 8 mill
Joe Phoenix > i don't see the down side


Damien McCandless > so Joe do you think that El Casa Immunitas is a fad or has it really got the properties advertised?
Joe Phoenix > oh its worth it
Damien McCandless > oh?  I was told it was all just quackery
Damien McCandless > but it has beneficial properties?
Joe Phoenix > oh yer
Joe Phoenix > i did some work experience at the oxford branch of cancer research uk
Joe Phoenix > amazing place...
Damien McCandless > cool.  Did they use it there?
Jehosh Farrfury > lol...
Joe Phoenix > CRUK didn't have anything to do with that drug being researched
Damien McCandless > ah ok.  But you have encountered it?
Joe Phoenix > they where looking into cell protien markers and the possibilty of linking protiens with posions which connect only with cancerious cells
Joe Phoenix > oh yer it does have a significant effect
Damien McCandless > Ill have to tell my mum
Joe Phoenix > We call it the H5M1 vacination
Joe Phoenix > same thing
Damien McCandless > groovy, I didnt know that
Joe Phoenix > it does really work
Joe Phoenix > makes you feel abit wierd for a fue days...
Joe Phoenix > but it will pass
Damien McCandless > I imagine it would
Joe Phoenix > its like a yellow feaver shot


Joe Phoenix > although i do know that it has been impossible to land on the moon
Paknac Queltel > So how was it done, then?
Paknac Queltel > The moon landing
Damien McCandless > why is it impossib;e?
Damien McCandless > is it because WIS hasnt been implemented yet?
Mordred McKenna > We've been to the moon Joe, I've seen the moon rocks :|
Mordred McKenna > they are not from this world
Joe Phoenix > ever heard of the van alan radiation belts...
Mordred McKenna > yes
Paknac Queltel > Those aren't quite as close as the moon
Damien McCandless > yeah but I have also heard of radiation shielding too
Jehosh Farrfury > wats a van alan radiation belt joe
Joe Phoenix > not from ionizing radiation
Jehosh Farrfury > do u wear it?
Paknac Queltel > So the moon landings... Were they faked?
Paknac Queltel > If so, how?
Jehosh Farrfury > i only have a leather belt
Joe Phoenix > its when electron magnetic energy emitted by the sun hits the magnetic field of the earth
Jehosh Farrfury > is that where moon rocks come from
Damien McCandless > I dont understand, why would the US fake the moon landings then?
Mordred McKenna > lol no
Joe Phoenix > it creats 2 belts of radiation called the van alan radiation belts
Joe Phoenix > to stop the space race
Joe Phoenix > to beat the russians
Joe Phoenix > any number of reasons
Joe Phoenix > but
Jehosh Farrfury > damn ruskies
Damien McCandless > but.... if you cant go to the moon, why would the Russians try?
Damien McCandless > wouldnt it be cheaper to wait for the russians to fake it then prove it couldnt be done?
Jehosh Farrfury > so joe ur calling neil armstrong a liar?
Joe Phoenix > without 9 foot of solid lead shielding around that entire space craft thouse people would have been dead within 5 minutes of multiple organ failiure
Joe Phoenix > ofcourse he is
Paknac Queltel > So how was the landing recorded then?
Damien McCandless > but..... if they built it in space, the shield would have wieghed nothing?
Joe Phoenix > how is any speciel effects done
Jehosh Farrfury > neil armstrong is an american hero how dare u besmirch his good name
Joe Phoenix > damien they didn't biuld it in space
Joe Phoenix > and no it wouldn't
Joe Phoenix > it would still have mass


Joe Phoenix > jehosh fairly easily
Joe Phoenix > obama is a living joke...
Joe Phoenix > see
Damien McCandless > Hey Joe do you have an Above Top Secret account?
Joe Phoenix > its easy
Mordred McKenna > the van allen radiation belts surrounding our planet are equal at every square inch of the planet?
Maistro > The question is, where did all the money go that went into the building/prepping of the spacecraft go?
Mordred McKenna > and not like our planet is an island in the river
Mordred McKenna > corrrect?
Joe Phoenix > no
Joe Phoenix > the belts start at 250km above the earth surface
Damien McCandless > but..... the space race, from Nasa's point of view, only cost about 0.5% of the GNP of the US in its entire run
Joe Phoenix > and are weaker around the pole
Jehosh Farrfury > how many miles is that
Joe Phoenix > s
Damien McCandless > probably less
Joe Phoenix > less
Damien McCandless > and Stephen Fry said that
Damien McCandless > so it must be true
Jehosh Farrfury > isnt he from futurama
Mordred McKenna > well
Joe Phoenix > 156
Mordred McKenna > where the solar wind reaches at the poles it creates the aurora borealis
Damien McCandless > no he is probably the single greatest living englishman
Mordred McKenna > because there is less of a magnetic shield at the poles
Mordred McKenna > but
Mordred McKenna > that doesnt mean the radiation is less strong at the poles
Mordred McKenna > its all relative
Mordred McKenna > depending on which part of the earth is facing the sun
Mordred McKenna > therefore the back part 'aka dark part' has less radation
Joe Phoenix > the radiation is concentrated at the equator because most of the energy hits the planet there
Mordred McKenna > and, assuming your theory joe, that would mean that the vacuum of space is even more highly radiated
Mordred McKenna > so
Joe Phoenix > no the ionizing radiation had a long half life
Joe Phoenix > yes
Joe Phoenix > it is
Joe Phoenix > now your going to ask "how can the space station servive"
Joe Phoenix > well its bellow the van alan belt so its protected and doesn't reseave dangerous amounts of radiation
Joe Phoenix > which is also why we don't get all the narsty radiation from the sun, allowing us to servive
Joe Phoenix > probe ships arn't effected by ionizing radiation
Damien McCandless > so...we could send gold-plated cyborgs to mars?

Joe Phoenix > so im sorry to break it to you guys
Joe Phoenix > but man has never landed on the moon...
Joe Phoenix > not saying its impossible
Joe Phoenix > but at the moment it is...

Joe Phoenix > a guy got off a rape charge by claiming he said "suprise" before hand...
Joe Phoenix > wierd i know
Joe Phoenix > but then again
Joe Phoenix > people are stupid
Joe Phoenix > not you though, your alright


Joe Phoenix > you should all join IC lol
Mordred McKenna > <3
Paknac Queltel > lol, no way
Jehosh Farrfury > sure thing
Jehosh Farrfury > :p
Damien McCandless > SOunds good to me
Mordred McKenna > maybe im still thinking about it
Joe Phoenix > ahh its well kl
Joe Phoenix > ok guys, c ya around
Mordred McKenna > bye my love
Joe Phoenix > no killing IC members!

Highlight reel.. Because you asked for it.