ThCEO has decided to join a corporation, NewCEO being the head of said corporation. What follows is the conversation I started with NewCEO:
Me > Hi there.
NewCEO > can i help you
Me > Well...certainly. I'd like to talk to you about ThCEO
Me > I see he's joined your corporation.
NewCEO > indeed
Me > There's no real easy way to say this, but he's a real idiot. An exceptional example of what not to do.
Me > Has caused the failure cascade of one alliance.
Me > And has subesequenlty gotten railed out of another.
Me > Peruse the forums much?
NewCEO > not really
Me > /emote grins, "I've got three threads linked in my bio."
Me > The first two make for hilarious reading..the third makes the first two much more epic.
Me > They all center around that particular guy. And various mis-adventures.
NewCEO > well hes trying to get his buddies in atm
Me > Um...I suggest not...they are either his alts, or worse than he is.
Me > I'm sure if you invite him into this chat, it will be enlightening :)
Me > He probably will not accept an invite from me.
ThCEO > ?
Me > Well hello ThCEO...I'm just having a chat with your new ceo here.
ThCEO > Yep I see you gave him the forum link. Funny read.
Solty is online, so I invite him in at this point.
Me > Funny read..all true. I like the part where you're irresponsible enough to be hiring during a war.
Me > And effectively causing a noob who doesn't know any better to get railed by my guys.
Solty > erm... hello.
ThCEO > Look I dont have time to debate with you or get into an argument with you zed and Im most certainly not going to let you bait me into something just as pointless as that post was.
NewCEO > this is rather enlightening
Solty > oh gawd...
Solty > more targets?
Solty > Geez man
Me > You see...we've been declaring war on anything ThCEO joins.
Solty > You gonna stay in a corp that gets dec'd long enough to actually do something about it?
Me > And he's been using them as meatshields.
NewCEO > well, tbh i wouldnt dc
NewCEO > but thank you for this info
NewCEO > sry celestis man
Solty > Every corp / alliance he's joined since this has started
Solty > has rallied up and taken losses
Solty > while he sits and laughs at them in a station.
Solty > Until he gets kicked.
Solty > I've absolutely no patience for his kind.
Solty > None.
Me > At any rate, it would sound like the ShoeMaker's a reasonable man and realizes that Celestius is probably not exactly what he might want in a fine, upstanding corporation.
Me > Am I correct in that assumption?
NewCEO > ok hold on here
NewCEO > 1st of all i have no respect for pirates
Solty > <-- is not a pirate.
Solty > So careful there, mate.
Me used to be a pirate on the weekends.
NewCEO > specificly what has he done from your experience that makes him an idiot and ruin these alliances
Solty gets out the soapbox
Solty hands it to Zed
Solty gets popcorn
Me > Right...
Me > In order to understand, we're going way back to about a week ago ;)
Me > Where a pilot gets his ass handed to him in a kestrel. By an iteron. In Jita in front of 4-4
Me > Right. So said pilot whines and asks for his stuff back. And upon receiving a curt reply. Threatens the iteron pilot.
ThCEO > The guy was a noob he did a noob action and begged for his stuf back man.
ThCEO > They call them noobs for a reason.
Me > Wait ThCEO...wait your turn please :)
ThCEO > Then you go all holy war
NewCEO > please continue zed
Me > At any rate...
Me > So, the itron pilot..we'll call him Zedrik...decides he doesn't like being threatend at all...and that its probably a bluff...but, that since there are consequences for your words in this game...he wardecs the kestrel's one man corp.
Me > The ceo of the one man corp, being a fine upstanding pilot..goes back to his old corp run by ThCEO
Me > So, that corp gets wardec'd as well.
Solty starts to invite folks...AllianceGuy#2 is a member of the second alliance that ThCEO tried to joine up with. AllianceGuy#1 is a member of the first alliance ThCEO tried to join up with.
AllianceGuy#2 > Greetings.
Solty > hey Ranbakor
Me > And, like a reasonable man, I have a chat with that ceo and his defensive coordinator, and we come to an agreement-ish thing.
AllianceGuy#2 > Solty, good to see you
NewCEO > hey your that old
Solty > likewise
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik. nice to finally meet the infamous mercenary.
ThCEO > AllianceGuy#2 here is the executor of my last allaince.
NewCEO > death is everywhere?
Me > Where I'll stay away from his nub miners.
AllianceGuy#2 > Negative.
ThCEO > Since Zed mentioned it I thaught it only fair for AllianceGuy#2 to be able to speak his peace also.
Me > And they'll kind of look the other way in highsec.
AllianceGuy#2 > Death is Everywhere.... that's a name I was hoping no one would mention again lol...
Solty > Good call
Solty > I just brought Listen over for you as well.
Solty > /emote hands out more shovels
AllianceGuy#2 > Well listen and I have made our peace.
AllianceGuy#1 > what is this about?
Me > Now, in the hours before the war goes live....their entire corp moves across space.
AllianceGuy#2 > I have agreed to their terms, and I am truly sorry for the inconvienience I 've caused.
Me > 30 odd jumps.
AllianceGuy#2 > We are no longer at war with EH
Me is telling a story :)
ThCEO > Zeds doing his soap box ting trying to get me kicked out of another corp.
AllianceGuy#2 > I've read the forums post about this ThGuy guy or however you' spell it
AllianceGuy#2 > Can we join audio
AllianceGuy#2 > This typing is ... ughhhhh
Me > So, I follow, and the kestrel pilot...says he's not undocking, wah..and he's created a new alt and blah blah can't touch him.
Me > So, I start killing his corpmates, including the newbies and what not that they're having cart everything across 30 jumps in relatively untanked haulers.
ThCEO > Zed man let it go this happened weeks ago dude.
AllianceGuy#2 > TheCEO
Me shushes ThCEO.
AllianceGuy#2 > please be silent
AllianceGuy#2 > just fr a moment
ThCEO > k
AllianceGuy#2 > Let's not fight gentltemen
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik would you do me the honor of joining audio
Me > Right. So. At this point, I've been posting the chatlogs on the forums.
Me > Sorry, can't do it..wife's still awake.
Me > I'm TL;DR ing as much as I can ;)
AllianceGuy#2 > Ok
AllianceGuy#2 > Well my piece is this.
Me > /emote pauses :)
Other Guy > ThCEO got DC'd
AllianceGuy#2 > I'll wait for ThCEO to get back ol
AllianceGuy#2 > I have briefly seen the post about the whole can flipping incident and begging.
AllianceGuy#2 > I did not read too much but from what I HAVE seen
AllianceGuy#2 > is a noob pilot pissing off an experienced pilot. one with a high reputation in the world.
AllianceGuy#2 > In my personal opinion if there has been some grievances, I feel no damage has been done so ireparably (spelling) that it cannot be discussed with words
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO is a good man Zedrik, from the time I've spent wit hhim
AllianceGuy#2 > Where he may keep some bad company, we're working on that
AllianceGuy#2 > On behalf of him, I would like to extend an apology of the highest sincerity to you and your colleagues.
Solty > I need another beer.
AllianceGuy#2 > LOL
AllianceGuy#2 > Got a yuengling in the fridge
AllianceGuy#2 > Want one?
ThCEO > Well ThGuy is an RL friend of mine so Natural im very defensive over someone attacking him in a game.
Me > You should have read the whole thread AllianceGuy#2 :)
AllianceGuy#2 > Perhaps I should of, so forgive my ignorance in this matter.
AllianceGuy#2 > I speak simply of what I have experienced
AllianceGuy#2 > I shall touch up on the matter.
ThCEO > and on the forums with insults
NewCEO > so all he did was pull some begging and nooblar threats? am correct on this?
Me > The story's not anywhere near done NewCEO :)
ThCEO > But Yea Ive apologized to you on multiple ocassions for ThGuy Zedrik.
Me > But that's how it starts.
AllianceGuy#2 > While I am not condoning the language or demaning words.. I think that regardless of who is at fault
AllianceGuy#2 > Both parties need to be present.
AllianceGuy#2 > And lay all the cards out
AllianceGuy#2 > And admit their faults
AllianceGuy#2 > And apologize.
AllianceGuy#1 > damn AllianceGuy#2, your a changed man
Solty > and get podded in front of jita 4-4.
Me > Yes, podded in front of 4-4.
AllianceGuy#2 > Like I said AllianceGuy#1... You've tought me a valuable lesson and I will never forget what you've done for me :)
AllianceGuy#2 > *Taught
NewCEO > why by all means give me the run down zed
AllianceGuy#2 > I am in no way attempting to bribe anyone or in otherwise wrongfully coerce anyone, but while our coffers are small is there any restitution that should, could or would need to be paid to any parties in this matter?
Me > Right. So the forums are abuzz with the chat logs....
Me > Where ThCEO
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik I don't think insults are necessary despite your feelings
AllianceGuy#2 > insults never make anything better :)
ThCEO > Zedrik I havnt lied to anyone.
Me > Where, a simple apology, and podding, would have solved the whole thing.
NewCEO > OK ONE RANT AT A TIME PLEASE
Me > I even accepted that ThCEO would be podded instead of ThGuy.
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik while I don't see any long term harm done in podding, I feel there could be other alternatives ...
Me > The podding never took place. According to the CEO of Celestius's former alliance (before grievance) because he beleived that the war would not end even if he allowed himself to get nuked.
AllianceGuy#1 > AllianceGuy#2 I've tried, give it up
AllianceGuy#2 > Very well.
ThCEO > Weve all tried
ThCEO > Zedrik doesnt get it
NewCEO > zed, besides embarrassing himself with threats against mercs (not very smart and kindof lol) and getting podded whats the big deal?
AllianceGuy#1 > it's bigger then the apology and the podding, it's about zedrik's 15 pages of forum fame
AllianceGuy#1 > Quite rediculous and childish. But people play this game in different ways. Who am I to judge one play style over the other
AllianceGuy#2 > That is one of the marvels of EVE, that certainly trumps WoW...
ThCEO > I agree lol
AllianceGuy#2 > honestly I just want everyone here to get along with one another, if not friends, just be civil and chill with one another.. smoke a bowl... drink a beer... pass by each other at a stargate... end of story
Me > At any rate. So, the forums are ablaze.
Solty > so... who's up for some brownies?
Me > And people start joining up.
AllianceGuy#2 > Amsterdam brownies?
AllianceGuy#2 > :D
ThCEO > I'll bring the liquer I hate beer if its not 100+ proof I wont drink it
AllianceGuy#2 > niiiice
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik you bring the burgers and hotdogs
NewCEO > doing extremely nooblet things especially involving mercs isnt smart yes, even idiotic, but if he doesnt rip people off, corp thief, spy etc etc wheres the crimes?
AllianceGuy#2 > if stupidty was a crime... god help the USA...
Me > The crime NewCEO..is being an
Me > A simple out was given...and not taken...multiple multiple times.
AllianceGuy#2 > Zedrik, may I ask how you played the game in your first week or two of EVE Online?
ThCEO > so ebing fallable and not perfect and making mistakes is a crime?
AllianceGuy#2 > What do you recall some of the things you did>?
Me > Now, while the war is going on, and this is where I beleive that ThCEO actually proves complete idiocy, and incompetence. Is where he is *still recruiting* during the war.
Me > Not only recruiting...he gets a new guy to join up, in the station we are using as our forward base.
Me > So, he undocks, and gets promptly killed.
Me > ThCEO gave him no warning about the war.
Me > No guidance.
Me > *nothing*
ThCEO > notice zed goes back to the story and ignores a valid question all together.
Other Guy > after which i remember you saying you were only going after combat ships and attacking miners anyway.... sorry had to say something thats all...
Solty > Would you please just STFU and let him finish?
Me > You're trying to derail the story.
Solty > my god.
ThCEO > Because in admiting he himself was once a noob and did noob actions would there fore make anything in his current story irelevant and void of meaning.
Solty > Zedrik has the conch. STFU.
NewCEO > ok, people, please just let zed finsih
ThCEO > k
Me > At any rate...Folks start leaving the alliance, and it gets down to two because finally, the alliance CEO reads some of the posts...and realizes that Celestius is indeed an idiot, and is using his alliance as a meatshield.
Me > I get a nice apology from the head of the alliance...its posted on the forums.
Me > And we pull the war.
Me > We redeclare war on ThCEO's corporation.
Me > Because I'm actually angry about the nub he got killed because he's an incompetent CEO.
Me > So, then he joins Grievance.
Me > Another alliance...Which AllianceGuy#2 here is in :)
AllianceGuy#2 > o/
Me > Now, he never told them abou the war.
Me > So, the sudden declaration of war is a real surprise.
ThCEO > Actualy I did
ThCEO > no it wasnt :p
ThCEO > im sorry please continue I'll shut up/
Me > So, ThCEO either leaves, or gets kicked, not sure which...have conflicting reports about that.
AllianceGuy#2 > We kicked his alt corps. and he left after being asked.
Me > And an agreement is come to with grievance about him and his sister corps.
AllianceGuy#2 > May I make a proposition Zedrik
AllianceGuy#2 > one I think you would find to your liking
Me > So that brings us here....
AllianceGuy#2 > How about this as a proposal
Me > Where, ThCEO is now joining a much larger alliance.
Me > And is going to use you guys as a meatshield.
AllianceGuy#2 > Complete dissolvment of all of ThCEO's corporations
AllianceGuy#2 > He will be the ceo of ZERO corporations
AllianceGuy#2 > whereas he will be my subordindate
Solty looks at the conch in Zedrik's hands...
AllianceGuy#2 > in my corporation
AllianceGuy#2 > Or rather, my sister corporation, with my brother Alex.
AllianceGuy#2 > He will be under constant surveillance.
AllianceGuy#2 > And will no longer step out of line
NewCEO > so your hounding him for being an uber nooblet
Me > *ding*
ThCEO > I have not been useing anyone as a meat shield Zedrik. You can ask any of the CEO's about that. I have offered all of them Mutualy agreeable Propositions for having us in the alalince. They have alll acepted.
NewCEO > seems kinda like youd have better things to do
NewCEO > i mena
AllianceGuy#2 > Would that be acceptable Zedrik?
Me > And, a nice apology. And public podding in front of a nice major trade hub.
Me > Will be *just fine*.
Me > And will make all of this go away.
NewCEO > yes can we just get this resolved
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO, I would just agree with this
AllianceGuy#2 > Get it over with. ****. I'd pay the 400k for a new clone
NewCEO > seriously this was taken a bit far on both sides
ThCEO > its not up to me its up to ThGuy and hes gone for 2 weeks.
AllianceGuy#1 > "except our little deal that said they couldn't join your alliance"
Me > No ThCEO...I want *YOU*
Me > I'd like to have ThGuy..but I'll take you.
ThCEO > Well your going to have to get used to disapoint ment then.
AllianceGuy#2 > Listen I thought it was stated his corporation could not join our alliance
AllianceGuy#2 > I don't recall nothing said about hi joining our corporation
AllianceGuy#2 > Not trying to play word games bro
AllianceGuy#2 > But I think to resolve this situation could we not come to an agreement on that?\
AllianceGuy#1 > it's the same principle, but whatever
AllianceGuy#2 > Well I do not mean to offend you of course
Solty > /emote has lots of love to give.
AllianceGuy#2 > I am just looking to resolve this peacefully as possible
AllianceGuy#2 > We will still of course stay far from Derelik
AllianceGuy#2 > .just think. one less headache far awya from everyone
AllianceGuy#2 > No offense ThCEO.
Me > The least amount of force that can be applied to finish this, involves a podding.
ThCEO > Heres my thing. I left zed a lone went off on my own and did my own thing trying to let bygones be bygones. even apologized to him multiple times. then as soon as I join another corp Here comes Zed off to Harass me again. Kind of pethetic really.
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO
AllianceGuy#2 > Cool it
ThCEO > If I give him what he wants hell jst go andf do it to someone else.
Me > The one apology you made, was not for your actions..you apologised for xerces.
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO
AllianceGuy#2 > I'm not saying what he's doing is right or wrong
AllianceGuy#2 > but for the sake of ending this situation
Me > You didn't pay attention when I asked for apologies.
AllianceGuy#2 > Just take the podding. apologize. dissolve the corps and let's be doen with this
AllianceGuy#2 > we pay 15 bucks a month to have fun guys
AllianceGuy#2 > Not pull our hair out over ****
Me > And it was frankly the most mealy mouthed, back-handed apology I've ever read.
NewCEO > seriously
ThCEO > Easiest way to end this situation is for all of us to Block Zedrik and never speak with him again.
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO.
AllianceGuy#2 > Last warning..
Solty > You've already tried that once.
AllianceGuy#2 > Cool it
Solty > Look where it's got you.
AllianceGuy#2 > come on guys this is getting REALLY heated unnecessarily.l
AllianceGuy#2 > Just take a breath
Solty > There's no heat, AllianceGuy#2.
Me > I'm not actually heated really. Neither is Solty.
Solty > It's nice and chilly here :-)
AllianceGuy#2 > sorry, I cannot interpret voice inflections in text :)
AllianceGuy#2 > One thing I am terribad at
AllianceGuy#1 > I'm cool, enjoying the conversation
ThCEO > Neither am I this is very tireing for me. but Im done with this its a waste of time I have more important things to deal with then Drama.
NewCEO > cele, please just give him what he wants. he obviously wont stop
AllianceGuy#2 > Yeah dude come on
AllianceGuy#1 > it's like watching a train crash, you don't wanna look but you can't take your eyes off of it
Me > Don't worry about it. The only thing which has made me angry during this whole thing was the way ThCEO threw a nub pilot into our teeth.
AllianceGuy#2 > its just a 400,000 isk pod
AllianceGuy#2 > Nub is a dirty term
AllianceGuy#2 > can we use rookie?
AllianceGuy#2 > Or newbie?
Me > Fine..he threw a rookie who couldn't have known better, straight into our teeth.
ThCEO > Zed you started as a one man wonder corp that got owned by
AllianceGuy#2 > OK ThCEO THATS IT
Solty > Actually...
Me > I even sent the guy isk a few days ago after talking to him.
Solty > that would be incorrect
ThCEO > Im done
ThCEO > sorry'
Me > Because he didn't warn him.
Solty > and more of the reason you're in the pickle you're in,.
AllianceGuy#2 > I'm going to seriously stop helping you here if you're going to keep this up man
Solty > Let me give you 4 words of STRONG advice, ThCEO...
AllianceGuy#2 > I've done my best to save your ass and keep things from getting any more retarded then they are.
Solty > Shut. The. ****. Up.
AllianceGuy#2 > Language pleasE? I don't think cursing is necessary
Other Guy > no kidding
Me > At any rate NewCEO..if you're not willing to boot ThCEO out, and all his buddies. Can we get an alliance diplomat on the horn? We might need him.
NewCEO > if he gives you his podding and sincere apology will you stop hounding him
Me > Yes.
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO
AllianceGuy#2 > Do it
AllianceGuy#2 > Do it and be done with it
Me > I must approve of the verbiage of the apology.
AllianceGuy#2 > or by god you'll have OUR alliance on your ass too
Me > And we're doing the podding in Jita 4-4
AllianceGuy#2 > Dibs on the corpse!
AllianceGuy#2 > :D
AllianceGuy#2 > Anyway
AllianceGuy#2 > ThCEO
AllianceGuy#2 > Just do it
Me > We'll have to arrange a corp for ThCEO to be in so we can dec it so that concord doesn't get involved.
Me > It would be poetic if it were
AllianceGuy#2 > Can't we do it in a low sec system? and just FRAPS it
AllianceGuy#2 > and put it on eve files
AllianceGuy#2 > or something
AllianceGuy#2 > War dec for something like that seems too much work
AllianceGuy#2 > get some commentary in there
Me > No...I kid you not...this is going to happen in front of Jita 4-4.
AllianceGuy#2 > or some music in there.
Me > And fraps will happen...this thing is being followed all over the place :)
NewCEO > ThCEO, im giving you one last chance, give him his fill or you no longer have my support.
Solty > oooo can we use the coconuts song?
AllianceGuy#2 > Or mine
AllianceGuy#2 > gay bar is kinda lulzy..
NewCEO > so what say you cele?
AllianceGuy#2 > "yes" doesn't take this long to type...
AllianceGuy#2 > Just friggin do it dude
AllianceGuy#2 > Be a martyr for your people
Solty > ./7 I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts ./7
AllianceGuy#2 > LOL
AllianceGuy#2 > ACDC - Balls
AllianceGuy#2 > :D
NewCEO > if ThCEO doesnt give in you will have no problems with
ThCEO > Ok zed tell you waht.
ThCEO > I'll let you pod me.
Me > Excellent.
AllianceGuy#1 > sellout
AllianceGuy#2 > Listen :P
AllianceGuy#2 > /emote smacks listens hands
AllianceGuy#2 > lol
NewCEO > ok
AllianceGuy#2 > ffs celestius don't be typing any terms
AllianceGuy#2 > I can tell tehy're coming
AllianceGuy#2 > a big ol "BUT"
ThCEO > No serisouly though Listens right. I am not haveing fun playing eve by myself and if every corp I join or allaince is going to buckle under Zeds demands and kick me out I dont really have achoice if I want to play Eve now do i?
AllianceGuy#2 > I KNEW IT
AllianceGuy#2 > oh wait
AllianceGuy#2 > ok
NewCEO > lol
AllianceGuy#2 > Ok Celestius
AllianceGuy#2 > thank you
AllianceGuy#2 > I know it may seem degrading
AllianceGuy#2 > but its a video game
NewCEO > indeed
AllianceGuy#2 > at leas you don't have to like... re-enact two guys one horse
AllianceGuy#2 > or something..
Other Guy > basicly... podding of Clest and Zed leaves everyone alone?
Me > The fastest way we can do this..is if Celestius joins CCMI Gallente Division.
Me > Or O.N.I.
ThCEO > its not degradeing so much. it just gives him a huge ass ego and now he knows he can go and do this to anyone and noone will stand up to him.
ThCEO > Im not leaveing this corp
ThCEO > you can piod me or not
AllianceGuy#2 > errr.
AllianceGuy#2 > :/
AllianceGuy#2 > I'm staying out of this onee..
ThCEO > you said pod me you never said lave a corp
AllianceGuy#2 > actually he sorta did
AllianceGuy#2 > only sorta...
ThCEO > im not in CCMI anymore
AllianceGuy#2 > because he wants you in Jita.
AllianceGuy#2 > and A war dec would involve your current allaince...
ThCEO > I can come to jita
Me > You want to play rules lawyer with me? I want you in Jita. Without concord involvment.
Me > Scroll back up..its there :)
NewCEO > why not just put a can out?
AllianceGuy#2 > oh yeah...
AllianceGuy#2 > Pull a can
Me > Can doesn't work for a pod.
AllianceGuy#1 > it's what started this whole mess in the first place
AllianceGuy#2 > shoemaker gets 50 internets for the good logic
AllianceGuy#2 > LOL
AllianceGuy#2 > Ironic isn't it
AllianceGuy#1 > rediculous is what it is
Me > Can doesn't work for a pod boys.
AllianceGuy#2 > Dammit
AllianceGuy#2 > let him blow up your rookie ship in low sec
AllianceGuy#2 > you get kill rights
AllianceGuy#2 > Then go pod him
Me > Doesn't work for a pod
AllianceGuy#2 > amirite?
ThCEO > well can im comeing to jita you can pod me or not use a cheap destroyer that wont cost you more the a mill to fit.
Solty > kill rights don't apply to pods
AllianceGuy#2 > DAMMIT
AllianceGuy#2 > I'll pay for it Zed
AllianceGuy#2 > if I have to
Me > Celestius: I'm not taking the sec hit for it.
ThCEO > Then you can **** off.
AllianceGuy#2 > you're 0.8...
AllianceGuy#2 > HEY!
ThCEO > Sorry
Me > Right...Solty...
Solty > It's gonna cost someone 150M if I have to dec these folks for 24 hours
AllianceGuy#2 > jesus christ celestius
AllianceGuy#2 > you say something and then say sorry
AllianceGuy#2 > If you're SORRY the first time you wouldn't do it again
AllianceGuy#1 > This is better then baseball!
AllianceGuy#2 > baseball is boring to watch on TV...
Solty > who's payin?
AllianceGuy#2 > I hope you're referring to live
AllianceGuy#2 > :P
AllianceGuy#2 > Well if everyone is cool with my proposition
ThCEO > I agreed to being poded.
AllianceGuy#2 > I will depart.
ThCEO > Zed said excelent
Me > Actually, with the wars we've got going on....
ThCEO > this means deal concluded
Me > Isn't it 200?
ThCEO > Your terms after your agreement mean nothing
Solty > no... it's 3rd war.
Solty > that's 150M
ThCEO > your sed status is your problem not mine
ThCEO > Noone willpay you that le Solteur
Me > ShoeMaker...Your choice, boot his ass or this gets messy.
ThCEO > I agreed to be poded
ThCEO > That was the deal.
ThCEO > You cant change **** after you agree to it
NewCEO > if he doesnt agree to your terms there will be no "mess" with my corporation or
Me > /emote waits for ShoeMaker to make his decision...
AllianceGuy#2 > Hey Zed
AllianceGuy#2 > checked out your youtube of your daughter eating jello..
Me > Cute eh?
AllianceGuy#2 > your wife has big boobs :DDD
Me > Yes she does.
AllianceGuy#2 > Oh yeah that too
NewCEO > wtf
AllianceGuy#1 shakes his head
NewCEO > jello and boobies....
AllianceGuy#2 > Come on Listen, I wouldn't be me if i wasn't SOMETIMES retarded...
NewCEO > no comment
Solty > two staples in life.
AllianceGuy#2 > Anyway before I piss off anyone. I'm going to beD!
Solty > toodles
AllianceGuy#2 > LATER, :) evemail me if you need anything, checkin it tomorrow
NewCEO > ok zed, cele, you both know my terms to this
NewCEO > and i have to go in a bit
Me > You might as well kick him now.
ThCEO > Yep I agreed to being Poded. As was what Zed ask for.
ThCEO > But now he wants you to kick me anyway
NewCEO > his terms are for you to join
ThCEO > I cant join
NewCEO > yeah that
Me > We're still at war with that.
ThCEO > Id still ahve to wait 24 hours
NewCEO > for what
Me > YOu have roles?
ThCEO > to rejoin a new corp
Me > No, if you have no roles..you go immediately.
NewCEO > he has no roles
Me > (facepalms) You can be there in minutes.
NewCEO > indeed
ThCEO > well considering the
Me > Where is the CEO of
NewCEO > ok so more like later on tonight
NewCEO > but still
Solty > I'm going to bed in 5 mintues.
Solty > If this isn't resolved with a plan of action in that time, I'm deccing your new friends, Cel.
Solty > Then you can pay me to end the war.
NewCEO > 04:48:32 Info You have been denied access for the following reason: You cannot expel this member as they are currently in space.
NewCEO > wtf
Me > Dock up ThCEO.
ThCEO > Im am docked
Solty > Dude, I only have so much patience.
NewCEO > ok ima relog brb
Solty > No offense intended to you and your Shoe.
Solty > yours*
Me > I'm heading towards Jita.
Me > Or, you could join
Me > We're still at war with them too if that's closer.
ThCEO > yea thats in
Me > See you in Jita soon.
ThCEO > not far from Jita
Me rockets off towards Jita.
NewCEO > ok so can this be resolved
Me > Apparently.
Solty > ok.. this is getting resolved it looks like.
Me > Night Solty.
Solty > few things to take care of before I leave.
ThCEO > im 40 jumps from
Me > I'm 20 odd jumps.
Me > No problem.
NewCEO > ok thank you cele
NewCEO > just get it over with so this can blow over and we can all move on from this rather pointless situation
NewCEO > goodnight to everyone and fly safe o/
Guys leave the private conversation.
Solty > omg...
Solty > is it over?
Me > No idea..he hasn't shown up in Jita yet.
Solty > alright.
Solty > bed time
Me > o/
Solty > post the link :-)
Solty > o/
Me > Forum post tonight or tomorrow :)
Later on, ThCEO private convos me:
Me > o7
ThCEO > im 18 mjumops from
ThCEO > make sure your friends dont pod me before I get to jita
Me > I know..I'm waiting..(been running locators)
Me > I suggest you move quickly then.
ThCEO > hey dude if your friend kill me when we have this deal thats a violation on your part.
Me > The rest of my corp knows not to whack yhou...and its been transmitted out over the alliance.
ThCEO > not to mention it will put me about 80 Jumps from jita
Me > So hop in a shuttle and move.
Me > You're making good time. 11 jumps out or so.
ThCEO > 15 avtiually and I still have to join
Me shrugs....it adds a few minutes... I can wait...I'm very patient.
ThCEO > unless you just want me to come straight to jita and not worry about your .2 sec loss
Me > You don't know anything do you....Its a 2% sec loss...multiplied by several factors including the sec rating of the system now.
Me > I'd hit -4-ish.
Me > Sorry. -12%
Me > Er..12.5..its been a while :)
Me > Plus the -2% for aggro.
ThCEO > Your lucky it was me you tried to pull this on. And the time. If you had done this to me about 4 months ago youd have been up against a 500 corp instead of the nooby industruial guys you did. And that Allaince plus the other 50 in 0.0 where we were at
ThCEO > the time.
ThCEO > so while yes I miscalculated my current allainces behavior and you called their bluff. it wouldnt have worked back then. but I suppose you helped me learn who is serisouly a cowered adn who just tucks and runs when the times get tough/
ThCEO > made me see a new part of eve I had forgotten about.
Me > You're welcome I think.
ThCEO > hey its always nice to know who will keep there word and help you fight and who will stab you in the back.
Me > Its the only way to find out.
Me > Which is why folks actually pay mercs to dec them...to shake out the crap.
ThCEO > well I mean despite what you think I told every allaince we joined about the wars I even gave them all the intel on the merc corps and you all. They said they were fine with us joining and didnt care then you all come along and they go sheep and bow
ThCEO > to your demands.
ThCEO > I eman lets face it your merc corps in that alalince arnt really that big in number. I mean there largest fleet was like 12 people. Any allaince the size of the ones Ive been joining should have been laughing at you.
ThCEO > But
ThCEO > They didnt
ThCEO > they were scared of you.
ThCEO > which says a load to me about things.
ThCEO > so a learning experiance all around I suppose.
Me > Yes, it definately has been.
ThCEO > just remember that not everyone and every noob you meet will result the way this did. And the next time you try this it may be you doing the running from corp to corp with someon demanding your pod to stop.
Me > Oh, I know...But that wouldn't have stopped me.
ThCEO > yea I get the feeling your a little Nuts. And not in the good way. your Very obsessive about stuff.
Me > /emote is paying a camera man to fraps this for posterity, and he's getting antsy....what's your ETA?
ThCEO > I suppose I could have just stayed in the NPC corp and mined out stuff and gone solo. but thats not much fun for me really I did that fro years.
ThCEO > 7 jumps
Me > No, you wouldn't have
Me > Because there's enough nuts people out there...who would have suicided whatever mining ship you were in.
ThCEO > The deal wasnt fro recording
ThCEO > you agreed to pod me not record and post it publicly.
Me > If you get here before they do.
ThCEO > You keep changing the deal.
Me > And I promised no such thing.
ThCEO > Doesnt matter the terms are whatr was said
ThCEO > the deal wasnt to be posted in public for everyone to see.
Me > It would have been frapsed no matter what..there's dozens olf people watching the station for exciting stuff anyhow.
Me > I just wanted to make sure I had my own copy.
ThCEO > well it may take me awhile anyway so you may or may not get to film it. Im on my way to hent and will be over as soon as I can get in oni.
Me > I'd hurry, my filmographer is 35 jumps out or so...He's moving as fas as he can because if he misses it he doesn't get paid.
Me > Mind you, I think he's in a cruiser, so he's a tad slow.
Me > So depending on what you're travelling in, you could get here before he does...because I won't make you wait.
Me > You want to get back to your stuff...and I understand that.
ThCEO > Like I said im not the CEO of oni my friend is. So if hes not on or able to log on I wont be able to get in until he does,
ThCEO > So its not really in my hands anyway
ThCEO > unless like I said you just want to pod me now
Me > Listen Celestius...
ThCEO > Im aboutto call him to see if hell log on and accept me
Me > The war between us and O.N.I ends at 14:00
Me > Don't...jack us around.
ThCEO > Dude your the one whos been jacking us around this entire time so dont even start with that.
ThCEO > And honestly while currently I am of the mind to let you pod me to get this overwith I am just as stubern as you are Obsessive. If you piss me off I will happily spend 3 months in an NPC corp or hell even sell this character just to spite you.
ThCEO > So dont threaten me
ThCEO > I eman honestly I could probably get 10+ biilion ISK for it and then just buy me another one with an alt youve never heard of.
ThCEO > So be happy for wwhat your getting.
ThCEO > Im in hent now fixing to put an app into ONI
Me > kk
ThCEO > ****
ThCEO > You cannot join this corporation as you are Minmatar and this corporation only accepts the following races: Caldari. If the CEO has the skill Ethnic Relations, this would not be a problem. Notice: The CEO must update his corporation through the ...
ThCEO > So what now?
ThCEO > you could always pod me in lowsec
Me > Get the ceo to train one level of racial relations.
Me > Takes about 5 minutes
Me > He's got to log on anyhow.
ThCEO > oh ok one sec he said he thaught he had the skill.
Me > Ethnic Relations
ThCEO > I know I told him he says he has the book but it wont let him train it because he needs Social level 3
ThCEO > I cant join CCMI either because that is ran by my alt and it has NO skills.
Me > /emote grins....
Me > Actually..you started CCMI right?
ThCEO > I did yes
ThCEO > im not in it now though
Me > The amounts, size and whatnot of who can join a coroporation is affected by whomever last clicked the button in the interface to update it.
Me > But we're not at war with CCMI right now.
ThCEO > ONI is not CCMI
ThCEO > oh
Me > We could be at war with them in 24 hours..but SOlty will want to be paid for the dec.
ThCEO > well hes not geting paid. I dont have the isk to pay him
ThCEO > Like I said though
ThCEO > You could come to lowsec and pod me
ThCEO > in a .2 you wont reciev a sec hit that really matters
ThCEO > so its up to you
ThCEO > you want to pod me or just let this drop?
Me > No, its up to you...figure it out.
ThCEO > lol thats funny man.
Me > /emote is waiting.
ThCEO > im sorry but no matter what you want reality is reality
Me > Actually...how about you show up and self destruct the prettyu pod :)
Me > Its not as epic..but I'll take it.
ThCEO > Ok I can do that
Me > See you out front of 4-4.
ThCEO > on my way to jita
Me > I'll be waiting.
ThCEO > 11 jumps out
Me > My camera guy is 12 jumps out..you might make it before him :)
Me > Meet you out front...dock'n'undock :)
ThCEO > actualy dude you might not be able to see anything fro all this lag
Me > It takes 2 minutes..lots of time.
ThCEO > im heere where are you?
Me > Undock.
Me > You should be out side Jita 4-m4 Caldari Navy Assembly.
ThCEO > I am undocked im in space right outside the station
ThCEO > someone has me locked
Me > No you're not..dock and undock
Me > Okay...at your leisure...:)
Me > Self destruct.
ThCEO > k says 2 minuets
ThCEO > god this is so laggy. I dont see how anyone could kill anything in this.
ThCEO > and someone just locked me
Me > Its easy..let the lag work for you...
Me > Who knows..someone might send you to your death sooner than the 120 :)
ThCEO > "shrugs" Im saveing this chatlog though so dont renig on your deal.
Me > Thank you...
Me > Have a good night and a fine time in EvE.
ThCEO > Now leave us alone. :)
Now all that is left is the apology.w